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  1. Gainzo

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    #11 Jersey

    Does anyone know how much money will be saved from the budget if the GOP succeeds in eliminating federal funding for NPR & Planned Parenthood?

    Serious question as I haven't been able to find any "hard" numbers when it comes to these organizations.
     
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    I don't know. But a consequence of eliminating Planned Parenthood will be more abortions. That is a logical assumption and raises more questions.
     
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    #11 Jersey

    I agree. It seems to me that most Republicans think that all Planned Parenthood does is abortions. That can't be further from the truth.
     
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    #37 Jersey

    $386 million for planned parenthood
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    $445 million for public broadcasting
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    $831 million saved



    It's 92% of their "business".
     
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    Do you have links for your stats? Especially the claim that 92% of women who go to Planned Parenthood get an abortion.
     
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    OTOH you could try google and show stats that abortion isn't 93% of their business.
     
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    #11 Jersey

    Why should I do that when I asked the person who posted the stat to provide the source?

    BTW: According to the poster it is 92%, not 93%, of their business.
     
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    $831 million which is 1/5 of the US taxpayer's annual subsidy outlay to Oil Companies who are making record profits.

    Some people are in the backyard searching for 4 leaf clovers while opportunity is knocking at the front door.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Where did you come up with that one???

    Affiliate Medical Services Summary*

    Contraception — 35 percent of services in 2008

    Reversible Contraception Clients, Women** 2,263,776
    Emergency Contraception Kits 1,436,808
    Tubal Sterilization Clients 489
    Reversible Contraception Clients, Men 109,823
    Vasectomy Clients 2,979


    3,813,875

    STI/STD Testing and Treatment — 34 percent of services in 2008

    STI Procedures, Women and Men 3,272,264
    HIV Testing Procedures, Women 324,671
    HIV Testing Procedures, Men 95,562
    HIV Testing Procedures, Gender Not Reported 28,839

    3,721,336

    Cancer Screening and Prevention — 17 percent of services in 2008

    Pap Tests 915,716
    HPV Vaccinations 60,064
    Breast Exams/ Breast Care 826,197
    Colposcopy Procedures*** 43,285
    LOOP/LEEP Procedures*** 2,613
    Cryotherapy Procedures*** 1,816

    1,849,691

    Other Women's Health Services — 10 percent of services in 2008

    Pregnancy Tests 1,111,355
    Prenatal Clients 9,433
    Midlife Clients 12,016
    Infertility Clients 168

    1,132,972

    Abortion Services — 3 percent of services in 2008
    Abortion Procedures 324,008

    Other Services — 1 percent of services in 2008

    Primary Care Clients, Women and Men 20,235
    Adoption Referrals to Other Agencies 2 ,405
    Other Services, Women and Men**** 81,492

    104,132

    Total Services 10,943,609

    *Patient Care Provided by Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers in 2008

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/fact_ppservices_2010-09-03.pdf
     
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    #11 Jersey

    Thank you.

    If you don't mind I would like to point out to PatsFanInEaglesLand and patsfan13 that 3% of Planned Parenthood's "business" consists of performing abortions.

    I don't know about you but isn't 3% a little bit different than 92% (or 93% according to patsfan13)?
     
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    Spread the word all you want, it makes no difference as they turn a blind eye to the defense contractor fraud, overruns... but that is ok for the extreeeeeme right.
     
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    #11 Jersey

    It's not even about that to me. It's the flat out lies that certain posters use when posting "stats/facts" when they have nothing to back it up with.

    I lean left but I never hated Bush as he was just a puppet to me.

    92% of women who go to planned parenthood get an abortion? Actual real data has proven that is wrong but, unfortunately, a lot of people will believe those stats. I'm sure Hannity, Beck, Palin, etc will run with those figures.

    Can anyone tell me why people vote on social issues and not economic issues?

    DarrylS: Have you read, "What's the Matter with Kansas?"
     
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    Now you know why he didn't provide a link. Evidently, a member can make any type of statement without providing a source and it's up to the replier to prove thier wrong.
     
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    #11 Jersey

    How about this statement?

    Patsfan13: 90% of male GOP members cheat on their wives and 40% of them have sex with men. Pleases find a source to refute these stats. Thanks.
     
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    No, I like your posts. Don't stoop to their level. Next thing you know you'll be providing links to FOX NEWS.
     
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    The no spin zone defeats you. Go GOP!
     
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    According to the Log Cabin Republican website 31% of gay voters voted for pubs in the last election.
     
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    Define "social issues."

    I don't think anybody should vote solely on one or the other, but many social issues involve individual rights versus government restrictions.
     
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    So that apparently means that the money being wasted for PP and NPR is somehow justified?
     
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    #75 Jersey

    Not at all. While I enjoy listening to NPR, there is no way I agree with tax money subsidizing it.

    But it makes an intelligent being question why these brave spending watchdogs are not making ONE PEEP about a 500% larger taxpayer subsidy to an industry that has achieved the highest profits in our nation's history the past decade.

    So yes, Real World, I would have more respect for their outrage were it not so discretionary.
     
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