Raining Snowballs

[ClevTrev]

And I'm sure if Mangini got hit, you'd feel bad for him?

More anguish is due to befall Mr. Mangini than what can be caused by a snowball. Evidently, you don't read the posts. Because if you did, you would have read comments about Mangini's "brief career as HC."

Not the point. He singled out Mangini in his comments. Essentially "Pour down the boos on Eric Mangini...and the Jets."

Right . . . . "boos." Not "snowballs." Is it that hard to understand? Glad you're not listening to radio broadcasts of Osama.

Your point was that Mangini doesn't deserve the harsh treatment he's gotten around here since he's left.

Hah! Not sure where you got that idea. No such comment was made by me. But it's interesting that when I object to the potential danger of snowballs and fans who are vulnerable to that stuff, security guards trying to put in a workday, and others, you make it out to be a "Mangini thing." You missed the whole point.

Another question then: do you support those who want to breastfeed at a game?

I say go for it if you're consenting adults!!!! Not sure how the Krafts might react!

 

[OhExaulted1]

question then: do you support those who want to breastfeed at a game?

Depends on who was offering me the boob.

 

[pats1]

More anguish is due to befall Mr. Mangini than what can be caused by a snowball. Evidently, you don't read the posts. Because if you did, you would have read comments about Mangini's "brief career as HC."

Not the point...again. What you said is true, but how far beyond that do your feelings towards Mangini go?

Right . . . . "boos." Not "snowballs." Is it that hard to understand? Glad you're not listening to radio broadcasts of Osama.

You continue to miss the point. The mere fact that James said to save up all your energy for when Mangini comes out points to the fact that they want fans to "hate on" Mangini. He wouldn't have mentioned Mangini by name if everything was all well and good between him and the Pats.

Hah! Not sure where you got that idea. No such comment was made by me. But it's interesting that when I object to the potential danger of snowballs and fans who are vulnerable to that stuff, security guards trying to put in a workday, and others, you make it out to be a "Mangini thing." You missed the whole point.

And I'm not sure where you got the idea that I thought hurling snowballs at other fans, security guards, refs, players, the field (not sure why you'd want to do that) was alright. I just said that Mangini is the one guy I wouldn't mind seeing get hit, provided he wasn't injured.

And yes, you clearly stated that Mangini shouldn't be harshly treated because Spygate was the Pats' fault.

I say go for it if you're consenting adults!!!! Not sure how the Krafts might react!

I kind of addressed this point in my last post. To some, a football game is a family, baseball style, buy a foam finger and 2 hot dogs atmosphere where 70 degrees and sunny is perfect weather. To others, it's a game where the colder the better, the snowier the better, where you stand all game, buy no concessions, and scream your lungs out when the opposing offense is on the field. You start off kids with training camp and preseason games until they're ready, willing, and downright enthusiastic about standing for 7 hours in the snow and cold.

 

[pats1]

Depends on who was offering me the boob.

And with that, we have 10,001 Pats1 posts!

 

[ClevTrev]

Not the point...again. What you said is true, but how far beyond that do your feelings towards Mangini go?

They don't. He's nothing to me.

You continue to miss the point. The mere fact that James said to save up all your energy for when Mangini comes out points to the fact that they want fans to "hate on" Mangini. He wouldn't have mentioned Mangini by name if everything was all well and good between him and the Pats.

Beg to differ, you appear to be the one missing the point. "Hate on Mangini" are your words, not Stacey's. You really don't understand that arch rivals want nothing more than to win, nothing wrong with James' request for noise and vitriol. You see, words don't hurt, but loud words can disrupt the opponents offense. Wow, am I really having to explain this?

And yes, you clearly stated that Mangini shouldn't be harshly treated because Spygate was the Pats' fault.

Yep, that's what I said. Belichick has taken responsibility, paid his fine, and moved on. You going to change that? If you do, I'll be very impressed. So in essence, you spend all this time venting about Mangini because the Pats got caught breaking a rule. It's over for me.

I kind of addressed this point in my last post. To some, a football game is a family, baseball style, buy a foam finger and 2 hot dogs atmosphere where 70 degrees and sunny is perfect weather. To others, it's a game where the colder the better, the snowier the better, where you stand all game, buy no concessions, and scream your lungs out when the opposing offense is on the field.

There's only one way I can explain this. Maybe if you become a parent (I'm obviously assuming you are not currently) and have someone in your life who you care about more than you care about yourself, then you'll understand what it's like to value others' safety and become aware of the delight people of all ages get from following a great sport. Remembering what it was like as a kid when my father brought me to Pats & Sox games and being able to do the same with my kids when they were younger makes me realize that there's much more to the whole experience than directing hatred at some insignificant guy who is probably not going to last beyond next year in his position as HC NYJs. Now, maybe you'll never get to that point. But I see others at games having the same experience with their family members that I've had with mine, young and old, and you understand that it's much more than numbers on a scoreboard at the end of the game.

Coupled with the season we are witnessing, it's something you want to put in your memory to have stories for a long time. Someday, you'll wonder . . . "What the hell ever happened to that arsehole Mangini?" Because all of a sudden you'll realize that he was a shooting star in a sport with a lifetime of memories.

 

[ClevTrev]

And with that, we have 10,001 Pats1 posts!

Congrats, glad to help out!!! :eat3:

 

[pats1]

They don't. He's nothing to me.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Beg to differ, you appear to be the one missing the point. "Hate on Mangini" are your words, not Stacey's. You really don't understand that arch rivals want nothing more than to win, nothing wrong with James' request for noise and vitriol. You see, words don't hurt, but loud words can disrupt the opponents offense. Wow, am I really having to explain this?

Exactly! The Pats and Jets are arch rivals. Stacey including Mangini in that also means the Pats (or Belichick) and Mangini are arch rivals. I'm not sure that same sentiment exists with, say, Tony Dungy.

Yep, that's what I said. Belichick has taken responsibility, paid his fine, and moved on. You going to change that? If you do, I'll be very impressed. So in essence, you spend all this time venting about Mangini because the Pats got caught breaking a rule. It's over for me.

I'm talking more about last season.

There's only one way I can explain this. Maybe if you become a parent (I'm obviously assuming you are not currently) and have someone in your life who you care about more than you care about yourself, then you'll understand what it's like to value others' safety and become aware of the delight people of all ages get from following a great sport. Remembering what it was like as a kid when my father brought me to Pats & Sox games and being able to do the same with my kids when they were younger makes me realize that there's much more to the whole experience than directing hatred at some insignificant guy who is probably not going to last beyond next year in his position as HC NYJs. Now, maybe you'll never get to that point. But I see others at games having the same experience with their family members that I've had with mine, young and old, and you understand that it's much more than numbers on a scoreboard at the end of the game.

Coupled with the season we are witnessing, it's something you want to put in your memory to have stories for a long time. Someday, you'll wonder . . . "What the hell ever happened to that arsehole Mangini?" Because all of a sudden you'll realize that he was a shooting star in a sport with a lifetime of memories.

I think that's accurate. Good points.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

-Is going to a football game a ... event where you spend half of the game in line at the urinal?

That is a vicious un-called for jab at guys with prostrate issues.

 

[pats1]

That is a vicious un-called for jab at guys with prostrate issues.

I think the greater issue is whether they can actually get to them behind a mountain of bottles!

 

[Joker]

pquote]That is a vicious un-called for jab at guys with prostrate issues.[/quote]
yeah, I prostrate myself every Friday night at my wife's feet, begging for a few hours out with the boys.Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...I think she HAS ISSUES!

 

[PatriotsReign]

I think people need to distinguish here between snowballs aimed at the field and snow tossed in the air in the stands. There weren't that many snowballs hitting the field, and I didn't see any players hit during the game. (Can't speak for any Jets getting hit entering the tunnel on the way out afterward.) The refs stopping play for a few seconds was more a precautionary move to get the point across. It just wasn't that bad; snowballs weren't "raining" onto the field.

But there were a LOT of snowballs being thrown from above down onto other fans. I'm talking snowballs, not chunks of snow thrown into the air.

 

[PatriotsReign]

THE SIMPLE ACT OF MAKING A SNOWBALL AT A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL GAME IS CHILDISH & IDIOTIC​

That's not my opinion, that's a FACT!

 

[PatriotsReign]

hasnt anyone here ever gotten into a snowball fight? it sure doesnt seem that way. maybe you should go outside and get in a snowball fight. its actually quite fun. nothing like D batteries.....

It was pouring rain...the snow was heavy & icy...only an idiot would have a snowball fight with that kind of snow.

secondly, we don't have snowball fights at Patriots games. This is a simple case of grow TF up!

 

[RabidPatsFan]

Immature as hell to be pelting visiting teams with wet, icy snowballs. Totally dumb. Spoils the atmosphere, dragging it down to a mass of out-of-control children. Spoiled rotten. You'd expect this kind of thing in New York, but thank God New England is not the same. Gillette security needs to post warnings and make announcements that if that should ever happen again, the perpetrators will be escorted out of the stadium, immediately.

Was a black mark in NE and the Pats.

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I couldn't agree more. I was there - it was my first trip to Gillette. I got hit on the head a couple times with some pretty heavy chunks of snow. Security was staring up at the crowd and morons were still throwing snowballs directly at the security guards and the officials.

It's one thing to throw up a handful of snow in celebration (like the Miami game a couple years ago) - but quite another to purposely throw chunks of wet snow and/or ice at security and game officials.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

i cant believe this these guys are still debating whether, or not throwing snowballs at unsuspecting people, is safe:bricks: yes, we've all been in snowball fights, yeah it can be fun. however, when your looking in one direction, and suddenly get hit hard by one, it can hurt. For a little kid, it could hurt alot more, to the point where the kid is crying, and needs to go home. So because some idiot drunk throws a snowball to hit the rat coach, misses him, a little kid misses out on a good experience with his dad at a football game. ok, so im speaking from experience, and still have some harsh memories of going to pats games back in the late 70's. it wasnt like the razor is now. im stopping now. this thread needs to die:bricks:

 

[pats1]

It was pouring rain...the snow was heavy & icy...only an idiot would have a snowball fight with that kind of snow.

Well, that's the only snow that you can actually make a snowball with. The powder that fell a few days before that couldn't make anything.

 

[sdaniels7114]

Seems like it might be ideal to get some leaf blowers going when it snows. That stuff that fell late Saturday before it warmed up would've ended up two miles down wind if a crew equipped with leaf blowers went after it right away. Once the rain fell, that was it though.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Well, that's the only snow that you can actually make a snowball with. The powder that fell a few days before that couldn't make anything.

c'mon pats1, we both know the best snowball snow is that "sticky" kind of snow and not water soaked snow.* The kind of snow that you can roll up a snowman with is the best for snowballs.* The snow that was on the ground sunday was not that kind of snow.I'll say it for the final time,

THE SIMPLE ACT OF MAKING A SNOWBALL AT A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL GAME IS CHILDISH & IDIOTIC​

 

[ShrewBeer]

c'mon pats1, we both know the best snowball snow is that "sticky" kind of snow and not water soaked snow.* The kind of snow that you can roll up a snowman with is the best for snowballs.* The snow that was on the ground sunday was not that kind of snow.I'll say it for the final time,

THE SIMPLE ACT OF MAKING A SNOWBALL AT A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL GAME IS CHILDISH & IDIOTIC​

were you at the game? there were piles of really good snow. i dont know how you can say it was all water soaked snow. granted, the snow underneath your boots wasnt any good, but the piles everywhere else were.
anyone can sit there and dream up ways in which throwing snowballs is childish and idiotic, and vice versa
there were several circumstances in which snowballs were thrown
a. balls thrown from the upper deck that only made it into the stands below. this was stupid and childish
b. balls thrown at fans, cops, and security. this was stupid and childish
c. balls thrown at the players as they were playing on the field. this would only have been ok if we were losing badly as it could be considered temporary insanity under the stressfull emotional circumstances otherwise, it was kind of stupid.
d. balls thrown onto the field of play, far enough away so that the game could not be affected by it. i see nothing wrong with this.
e. balls thrown at mangini that hit people from new england. this is a tough one. collateral damage.
f. balls thrown at mangini that hit him or any other jets executive. nothing wrong with that.

 

[mancunian]

The refs would penalize the pats because the fans threw snowballs? It is 100 percent impossible to stop a massive crowd from hurling snow balls when it is all over the stadium.

Few idiots are always going to be idiots. That sid Im glad Mangini got hit with a snowball.

Weren't they discussing introducing a rule so that the Refs could penalise a team for the crowd being too noisy?