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Raiders sign Andre Carter | ProFootballTalk
Damn, I'm still maintaining that the Pats must have saw something to make them hesitate there.
It's ok. The Patriots have great D-linemen like Fortson and proved this weekend that they don't need any pass rushing depth.
Either the Pats weren't interested or the Raiders overpaid by a ton. No other reason to go there.
I am going to go with raiders overpaid. I am not worried
After watching Ninkovich's pathetic pass rush on SNF... I was hoping we'd bring Carter back.
Didn't they cut Fortson to sign some other guy nobody has ever heard of?
Color me wicked pissed
Indeed they did. The Patriots didn't pressure Flacco on Sunday, either.
But Ninko will have 10-15 sacks this year, like he always does.
before we overreact over the pass rush for 1 game this year..lets give it a few more weeks
I suppose that wishing Ninko to be the second coming of Mike Vrabel and having that actually be so are two different things.
Flacco was taking 3 step drops and hitting open receivers without ever needing to hold the ball or look for other options. We do not have a pass rush problem. We have a coverage problem. Andre Carter is not going to change that.
Let's see.....we passed on Carter. St Louis passed on him. Arizona passed on him. Oakland even passed on him the first time.
This isn't last year's Andre Carter we're talking about.....
You act like Carter was Jason Pierre-Paul. He has had more bad seasons then good in his career.
Yeah, the quick 3 step and chuck it 40 yards downfield play happens all the time, and there was no lack of pressure this weekend.
Nah.... we've got people thinking Flacco was throwing bombs on step #3. Why not hold out for pretty much anything you want? Expect a unicorn and a truly climbable rainbow, too. :rocker:
Vince Wilfork for slot receiver!
Carter has 4 years of double digit sacks and has 6 sacks or more in 7 of his 11 years. Ninkovich has 12 career sacks and had a career high of 6.5 sacks last season. Cunningham has 2 sacks in his 2+ year career.
Maybe Trevor Scott (1.5 sacks since 2009) is the answer.
Edelman can take his spot on the line. Plus he's younger and cheaper.
Here is to hoping Jake Bequette, completely out of nowhere, is lightning in a bottle. Highly doubtful as it may be.
Belichick has made several bad decisions this season,so it seems.
DI do you think Carter is really going to be what he was last year? Aside from us why wouldn't the Raven (Suggs injury), Jets, or one of the other teams who need a pass rusher bring him in.
Do you think Carter was sitting around saying I am not playing till I get that contract offer from the Oakland Raiders?
You know,it's scary and sad to think of how raw and green some of our younger guys are when we beg that 2 players in thier mid 30s (Waters,Carter) can play again for the team,because the guys 10 years younger are not getting the job done
Chandler Jones is a good replacement for Carter even though he does not yet have the experience or the productivity to go with it. The problem is that he is our only credible pass rusher. Ninko has neither the speed nor strength to be an effective rusher and waiting for Wilfork, Love, or Brace to get to the QB is like waiting for Godot. BB he had a bad year in free agency and it sur elooks like he did not do his homework on Fanene. Perhaps he can try letting Hightower put his hand down.
I don't know. I do think that he has as many sacks as Trevor Scott, 0.5 fewer sacks than Ninkovich, and 1 sack fewer than Cunningham, as of right now. The Patriots have 3 sacks in 3 games. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's possible, albeit not certain, that Carter might offer some help in that area.
How is this relevant?
[/QUOTE]How is this relevant?[/QUOTE]
Do you really need me to answer this questions?
Its relevant because it shows that several evaluations by multiple teams determined Carter is not deserving of a roster spot. And you're suggesting otherwise.
This time last year, Andre Carter had a half of a sack and the Pats weren't getting much pressure on QBs. In fact, Carter only had a half of a sack until week six. I am not a huge Ninkovch fan, but I agree we have to give it time. The Pats tend to get more exotic with their defense as the season goes along and play better.
This. If you remember, Carter was saying that the pass rush was still a work in progress and was 'almost there'.
After he said that, he and Anderson went on a sacking spree.
So is Carter better at avoiding being blatantly held than the Pats' current DEs?
As long as Carter is ready to play, one team is all that was needed. What multiple teams do is frequently meaningless, different teams have different needs and criteria, and Belichick has often talked about how he doesn't care what the 31 other teams are doing.
Your question, at least as worded, really wasn't relevant.
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