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How many regular season wins will the Patriots get in 2011?

  1. 16

    6.5%
  2. 15

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  3. 14

    6.5%
  4. 13

    11.7%
  5. 12

    35.1%
  6. 11

    24.7%
  7. 10

    11.7%
  8. 9

    3.9%
  9. 8

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  10. 7

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  1. cstjohn17

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    Quick pulse - Expectations for 2011 Season, pre-OTA version

    Go with you gut, how many wins, how far in playoffs?

    Personally, I view them as a wild-card team in year 2 of a 3 year rebuilding program. The get into the dance.

    Win Wildcard weekend against the Steelers
    Beat the Jets at home in the 2nd round
    Beat the Colts / Chargers in the AFC Championship
    Upset the Vikings in the Superbowl

    Pretty good for a rebuilding year
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    19-0 hands down
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    What you already gave up on the 2010 season? :D
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    I'll guess 11, +/- 1 and hopefully deep into January and early Feb!
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    So.... we're assuming there's no blackout, then?
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    I'm guessing you're talking about the 2010 season. In that case, I'll say 12 wins. This is based on pure optimism. I feel good about the picks of McCourty, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Deaderick, Spikes, and maybe Price (though I'm still a little iffy on him). Addition by subtraction is a good thing (A.D., Baker, Springs, etc.), and I like Torry Holt. He still appears to have something left to contribute (700+ receiving yards in a run-first offense with David Garrard as QB). Hopefully Chung, Butler, and Tate are ready to step up this year. On top of that, I believe Brady will be more like Brady in 2010 than he was in 2009. 12 wins doesn't seem to be out of the question.
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    Yeah, and here I am still waiting for the Pats to show up for the 2009/10 Wild Card Playoff game against the Ravens...

    ....what? you say they played the game...that it's over?

    ...but, who were those guys in the Pats uniforms on the...oh, never mind....
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    He probably meant to write "2012." :rolleyes:

    Mmmm....I think I'll have to get back to him on that one...
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    Tough schedule, load of rookie and 2nd year players (5 on the receiving side, 5 in the LBs, 3 in the secondary and 2 in Kicking/punting duties), no Welker for the first 5 or 6 games.......on the one hand


    and on the other

    Tougher, angrier Brady, more disciplined team (focus on captains and locker room dynamics), Mayo healthy and with help, Vince happy and leading, good guys with boots (Ghost and Zoltan).... AND THE COLTS AT FOXBOROUGH - how do you want that cut?

    I am not optimistic that we can get more than 11 but if this team gels it could be great and a lot of fun. Still got to see how the TC and pre-season work rolls out but this could be a fun year especially as I am not anticipating a SB which is more likely in 2011 or 2012 (got to get over that strike).

    Apologies replied thinking it was for this season - didn't think it was for 2011 since we dont know the schedule.
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    I can see us being a legitimate Superbowl contender by 2011, with Brady hopefully still in his prime and our young players start entering their primes too.

    Here are some of the players I can see becoming very good NFL players by 2011:

    CB Darius Butler - One of the best athletes on the roster, showed lots of promise in his rookie campaign and if he develops he can use his athleticism to be a top flight corner for years.

    SS Pat Chung - Great work ethic and attitude, with only 20% of playing time as a rookie but should start to see more playing time. If he develops then he can be the hard-hitting enforcer in our defensive backfield that makes receivers think twice before going over the middle.

    OLB Jermaine Cunningham - Lead by example type, high-motor guy who will hopefully help our pass rush issues and also be solid against the run. It's tougher to try and project DE/OLB conversion types but the potential is there.

    WR Julian Edelman - Showed lots of promise in his rookie year, especially since he was converting from QB into playing WR in the NFL. If he continues to progress then imagine trying to cover Edelman and Welker on the field at the same time. Hopefully, he can turn into a reliable receiver when he builds chemistry with Brady, and plays like Welker with better juking ability and with a 2nd-Gear as well.

    TE Rob Gronkowski - Huge physical presence at 6'6" 265 lbs who is a 1st round talent with a back injury. If he stays healthy, he will hopefully be a strong blocker against blitz-heavy teams like the Jets, and also work the middle of the field, occasionally be a deep-threat and essentially be Brady's security blanket.

    TE Aaron Hernandez - Athletic TE/WR/FB hybrid with good route-running, speed and catching ability. Hopefully, he will also help with the development of OC Bill O'Brien as he provides another weapon for O'Brien to work into the offensive creatively to exploit matchup problems.

    ILB Jerod Mayo - We all know just how good Mayo is but hopefully being fully healthy and a few more years experience leading the defense will let him take the next step and become one of the league's top 2 ILBs (along with Patrick Willis). Should hopefully be able to make more plays with him using his instincts instead of thinking about co-ordinating the defense and making the calls.

    CB Devin McCourty - Admittedly, I don't know too much about him but according to several scouting reports, can be a shutdown corner along with being one of the best special teams players in the NCAA last year.

    ILB Tyrone McKenzie - Hopefully another piece in the ILB puzzle. Was a solid all round player at South Florida and has recently bulked up with several pounds of muscle. This should help him be a 'thumper' in the middle which should compliment Mayo and free him up to make some plays.

    WR Taylor Price - A potential steal as his production in college was limited in college as a result of the system he played in and an under-developed QB. He has good speed, good hands and has shown he is fearless taking hits in the middle after the catch. Hopefully, with a full year under his belt and with Tom Brady throwing him the ball, he will become a big part of the offense by 2011.

    DT Myron Pryor - Showed lots of promise as a rookie as a pass rusher. If he continues to develop he could be a real asset against the pass-heavy teams like Indinapolis and New Orleans. He should be a good penetrator in sub-packages to get some pressure on the elite QBs, which is essential in the modern NFL.

    ILB Brandon Spikes - Nasty and intense player, in a good way. He is a big ILB who was the heart and soul of the Florida defense with his leadership and aggressiveness. Should be a big run stuffing LB that also shows some instincts in pass coverage and makes some plays in the passing game, while also helping bring the nastiness to our Defense.

    WR Brandon Tate - 1st round talent who slipped to the 3rd round because of injury issues. He can beat defenders with his speed as shown at UNC and even in the Wembley game and can make people miss in the open field. It also doesn't hurt that he was one of the best returners in the NCAA before getting hurt. If he can keep healthy, I expect him to be one of Brady's favourite playmakers for years to come.

    LT/RT Sebastian Vollmer - Was the star of the '09 draft class, filling in for the injured Matt Light and doing a wonderful job. He showed that he can be a star in this league when he was controlling Dwight Freeney in one-on-one situations. That is simply sensational, especially for a rookie. I fully expect him to be one of the top tackles in the league for years to come and be a regular Pro Bowler at 6'8".

    Bottom Line

    Now, I know that I might have went a "little" overboard with this post but the point that I am trying to make is that we have added so much talent in the last few years that there is a lot of potential for the start of a new dynasty, whether that be in 2011 or later.

    This list of players just shows how much potential this team can reach with one of the greatest QBs of all time and the greatest coach of all time pulling the strings.

    Also, this is just a brief list of the talent on our roster which doesn't include players like Rich Ohrnberger, Ted Larsen, Darryl Richard etc who can also surprise us by possibly developing into quality NFL starters.

    Not to mention, that we have two 1st round picks in the 2011 draft (one potentially a top-10 pick) and also two 2nd round picks as well. This gives us another great opportunity to add another bunch of talent to our team, with us hopefully grabbing a stud day 1 starter with the Oakland pick.

    Now, there is going to be some growing pains with the young players development but over the next few years we will be lucky enough as Pats fans to witness the re-birth of the dynasty that dominated the league for nearly a decade.

    Again, sorry about the long post but IMO, this will be one of the elite teams in a couple of seasons that will be a Superbowl contender every year.
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    11 wins and a 5 seed.

    A road win in the wild card round, maybe even in the divisional, but not AFC champs, at least not yet.
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    Picked 12, for no other reason except am an unabashed homer, who drinks the koolaid daily...
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    10 or 11 for me

    AFCE is tough this year and we wont be walking all over the Jets and the Fins like we used to

    Thats predicated on

    a) we find some way of either giving opposing QB's less time or play better in the secondary

    b) Moss and the new WR's step up and we have a better passing game not wholly reliant on one reciever and 3 or 4 plays
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    I agree the AFC east is looking to be one of the toughest divisions this year. I feel confident that the Pats can indeed win the AFC east or atleast make it to the playoffs as a wildcard. Its going to be tough this year but if the young talent we have steps up then we should be great shape.
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    This team is being dramatically underrated by the national media.

    We've continued our stockpile on young talent. If Brady/Moss stay healthy and even a fraction of our youth develops, then we'll be destroying teams again. Let's not forget how close this team was to greatness last year. If it weren't for blown 4th quarter leads (and some of them done in horrendous fashion), they'd have been 14-2.

    As for the Jets, they've already lost a starting RB [Jones], starting OG [Faneca], a starting CB [Sheppard] (at one point last year), nickel CB [Strickland] and 3rd down RB [Washington] - and they may also cut ties with a starting OLB [Thomas] and starting DE [Ellis]. That'd be 7 key members, and they've replaced them with a bunch of knuckleheads & career losers (I'm looking at you LdT).
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    I really don't see why people look at the team in this fashion. On the flip side, if it weren't for Leodis McKelvin making one of the worst decisions in the world and Mark Clayton holding onto what should have been an easy catch, this team could have just as easily been 8-8.

    However, they weren't 14-2 nor were they 8-8. They were a 10-6 team that won it's division despite all of the flaws they had and then had those flaws shown to them in the first playoff game. Your first and last paragraphs are good though. I believe this team has improved and has stockpiled talent at key positions which were question marks last year (WR, TE, ILB). I believe they can easily improve upon their 10-6 mark from last year.
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    Fair enough - I'm mainly just looking it at the standpoint of: this team never had any problem moving the ball down the field...if it can fix its redzone and 4th quarter woes, than this offense will resemble the 2007 offense more than the 2009 offense. If this team puts up 32+ PPG this year, it should win at least 13 games, IMO.

    Sure, its a big if - but considering the influx of offensive weapons at WR and TE, I'd be surprised if we don't see at least one or two guys emerge as a key contributor.
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    Ever the optimist I voted 16. Realistically, in the 10-13 range, not taking into account SoS and the availability of Wes.
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    Ten wins. Wildcard. Defeat on the road in the play-offs.

    Too many question marks in terms of WR's. Depth of linebackers and pass-rushers worries me. Who is the 1-2 punch at RB? No gamewinners on the ground.

    Will BB make Gronk an Owen Daniels-like target at TE? Doubt it.
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