Seriously and you can flame if you want I won't respond to that simple minded drivel, but I'll start with this. I can't believe this is still going on. Usually when you do your time or pay a penalty, its over. Anyway, I am curious to what the level headed Pats fan thinks about the litany of excuses and the logic that follows: 1.) It doesn't provide a competitive advantage. -If its not an advantage, then why do it (argument on the main board from Chuck Farley, I think)? 2.) It's not illegal to tape, it was the location of the taping. -is this verified by the league or just what Patsfans have adopted as the truth from speculation from the media? 3.) It was only the minor infraction. -Then why the worse penalty in the history of the league and if it was only minor infraction, but the worse penalty ever, then why in the world wouldn't Kraft appeal the decision. He should've demanded a review of the "minor infraction" 4.) Everyone does it. -Is this speculation or have other teams been caught doing it. Link? 5.) Lastly a question, why did he destroy the tapes? He couldn't protect them from getting out? He can't be serious, the NFL offices are so disorganized and unprofessional that you can't guard confidential information, its not believeable. He can't put them in a safe somewhere that only a few people have access. This hurts the situation more than anything. Why do you think he really destroyed the tapes. ----------- I try to emphasize if this was my team in this situation. I guess I'd be defensive too, but I think I'd just do what the team is actually doing, nothing. Just say nothing because its over. Specter aside Now flame away, but realize I really do mean this as a serious set of questions not an invite to insults or a dis on the Pats, but I again I won't respond to nonsense. Lastly, sorry for the loss of the Superbowl, but as time goes on I'm sure you all are realizing there is always next year (I've said that every year of my life, but one, so its like a comfortable pair of shoes at this point). It'll be the draft before you know it and the sting will dissapate for sure with that.