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  1. Tunescribe

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    I get a kick out of that show "Doomsday Preppers," which focuses on seemingly paranoid backwater types building bunkers and squirreling away supplies, guns and ammo for varied scenarios of an imagined Armageddon. Yet, in the back of my mind I've wondered if there might be something to this growing undercurrent of folks hedging against social/political/economic/environmental instability.

    Our basic infrastructures (power grid especially) seem to be getting increasingly fragile as time wears on. So what looks like folks succumbing to fear and paranoia might actually be a legitimately intuitive reaction.

    My question for everyone here: do you have a tangible plan in place for if/when TSHTF?
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    I intend to go out in my yard and watch it.
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    Who the f-ck left you judge and jury?

    Ya think?
    OBozo had a trillion dollar stimulus he could have used to fix the power grid instead he used for crony socialism payoffs to unions and layabout hacks.
    Those paranoid backwater types are a hell of lot closer to their projection future reality then the republicans are to putting black back into chains that we have to hear about day after day after day.
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    Mondo Bizarro..

    We rebuilt the roads in Iraq after we destroyed them, too bad we did not allocate that for our own infrastructure.. when I drive under bridges I always check out how much rust is underneath..
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    Sheesh. Why don't you just answer the question?
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    I'm sorta partial to an "On The Beach" sort of end-plan for myself.
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    Yeah especially the big dig, another goverment boondoggle.

    Depends on which scenario hits. Nuclear bomb would be my first guess. If it hit the east coast.Just take what I can and drive west is all I can think off the top.
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    Gonna be an electromagnetic pulse. Nothings requiring electricity going to work.
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    No Pats on Sunday? Wheres my cyanide.
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    There is a TV show Revolution on ABC this fall about what happens if the electric grid goes down permanently. I was in Mississsippi post Katrina and saw life in a non-electric world. Those "paranoid" types were the most prepared and managed well. A nuclear bomb detonated at low altitude would result in an EMP (electro magnetic pulse) that could and would fry all things non EMP-proofed. (i.e. most things)
    Do you have a store of 30 days of food or water if you had to shelter in place and firearms to protect said stock of supplies?? I guess I might qualify as a "paranoid" type because we lost power for 5 days a few summers ago and it was not pretty.
    EDIT- Charlotte is right, was writing when he/she posted.
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    I'm a he.

    Yup, I knew people that went down to NO after Katrina to protect family homes, pretty scary stuff. These guys were very heavily armed at all times.
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    This is the sort of thing I'm driving at. I think we take so much for granted that "failing to prepare" might be "preparing to fail." So I've seriously been thinking in terms of "prepping" myself, though not to the same extreme as those on the aforementioned TV show.

    The freak nor'easter last October that blacked much of the area landed us in a Motel 6 for two days, something I don't ever want to repeat.

    So you have 30 days of food and water stored? What would you cook with?
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    I lost power for 4 days last Halloween in a two foot snowstorm, thought I was going to have to drink my own urine.Swore I was going to buy a generator.Still don't have one.
    Seriously can you imagine what it would be like if something like that happened. Especially the people who need government to wipe their ass now.
    The ones hardest hit will be the ones government has given the most.
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    Propane grill, open fire will work. All the food is dehdrated, just add water and heat it up. Not gourmet under any stretch of the imaganation. The problem is you need weapons to protect you stuff.
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    Funny story, my bro in law and family live in NOLA.. during Katrina they took to the road and went to Hattiesburg then to Orlando. They took their single cab truck, in the truck were he, his wife, son, wife's "little sister", two dogs and some possessions. He later went back with a gun, even though he never used one before, to check on his property.. and there was no damage except for some shyt that flew around.

    We did collateral family searches for the "little sister" whose grandfather was in the Superdome, but got bussed to Houston..

    Next time I saw him he claimed that he would be better prepared for the future.. and they were gonna make better plans than they did for Katrina.

    Last week Isaac came.. they had no extra water, no batteries, no dry food, his generator would not start and no chargers for their cell phones in their cars.. somehow they did ok.

    He got power last night and spoke with him, he vowed once again to be prepared for the next time.. wanna bet???

    In this preparation stuff there is a wide spectrum..
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    I have a portable generator that can power up the furnace, the fridge and a couple of lights. I picked it up about 12 years ago because my house had electric heat and a pellet stove and wanted to ensure we had heat. if the power went out. I've had to use it a few times(new house now with an oil furnace)but for less than a day each time. Food? The pantry and fridge would keep us going for a couple of weeks. I have 3 5 gallon water jugs that I can fill up from a spring a few miles down the road. I fill them from the sink when severe storms are forecast.


    edit: a couple of propane grills also-one for home and one for tailgating
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    My iPod's charged at all times and I have a glass case in the garage that has a sign "In Case of Societal Collapse, Break Glass". In it, I have a case of Sam Octoberfest and a sheet of blotter acid. I'm gettin in my truck and driving to P-Town or until I run out of gas, beer or acid. Sort of a Hunter Thompson road trip thingy. Oughtta be fun.
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    Last halloween I borrowed a friends generator. Had to drive to Fitchburg to get it. I timed it so I could watch the Pats vs Steelers at his house. My wife stayed at home with no electricity. I figured there was no sense in both of us being cold.:)
    Generator had kept pellet stove fridge and few lights going. Noisy as hell and I had to run cords all through the house. It cost about 50 bucks a day in gas to keep it running.
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    I keep my eyes on the road
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    They DO seem like backwoods-type people though....
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    I always have several cases of water. The pantry is always pretty loaded up with a nice balance of food....I have a .4 kids, my wife, and I would be fine for a month....I also have a 250# propane tank behind my house that is always at least half full...I have a charged car jumper that can run a radio for 4-5 months

    then I have a pistol, a rifle, a shotgun, ammo, and a crossbow (two hundred arrows....what can I say, they were a bargain) as well as a nice collection of camping goods......

    paranoid is not a word I would use.......prepared is a better one...I'd have to say, that the water was really the only thing that was planned, and that was because of an e-coli issue in the town last year....the rest of it was bought for fun
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    A case or two of MREs will give you a week's worth of nutrition. At 4000 calories a pop, that's one days worth of food and they heat by adding water (LiOH or LiCO2.. IIRC). They estimate a gallon per person per day but I can live on half of that. You can buy the MREs online and they have a shelf life of 5 years (check the dates and colored labels). I lived on them for two weeks in Mississippi and actually gained weight despite the heat...
    A hand crank radio ($30) that can charge a cell phone or a gas powered generator will give you some measure of control over the situation.

    Edit- And we always keep 50 pounds of dog food......not for us (but for my avatar)
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    I could probably Jury rig a bike to a car alternator to keep a car battery charged........but at that point, I'd figure my problems would a little bigger than not having power would solve.
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    Here's my thing regarding doomsday....if it comes, I don't want to survive. Why would anyone want to live worrying about gangs attacking your home to kill you for your food and shelter?

    If doomsday comes, turn out the lights and say goodnight. For those wishing to survive, have fun in your relentless nightmare of existence.
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    I want to survive long enough to see if it is worth surviving.......I would wait a few moment before hitting the bunker like in the movie 'blast from the past'
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    I have a high-powered pellet rifle....:confused:

    shoots 1200ft/sec with pointed pellets....takes forever to re-load though....
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    Awesome movie! Walken was great as the dad. Even Frasier was great, and I think he mostly sucks as an actor.
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    Just moved back up from fl...down there we had plenty of water, canned goods and a small charcoal grill. Fishing tackle, and were looking into grabbing a gun or three.

    Rented a house up here, not as worried though. Still would like a fire arm in the house, just peace of mind when the little lady is home alone with the dog. Will be grabbing water to throw in the basement with a sack if rice and some beans. Probably won't need it. If the **** really hit the fan I'd take off to my mother's (high point of the area), where she and the neighbors (who have plenty of livestock and guns) have semi joked will be the home base. Fireplaces, plenty of wood, generator to keep the wells going. I'm a chef, girl is a nurse, brother is a mechanically inclined redneck. Wild animals are common enough, hunting would be an option until killed off by everyone.

    I don't worry about this stuff, is just the first option assuming there is no nuclear winter...

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    Just watched it again this weekend. LOL


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    2 scenarios, 1 prepping for natural disaster hurricanes snowstorms and the like, storing MRE's, canned food, camping clothing, sleeping bags for cold climes and Water using propane to cook with you can get by OK for a few weeks. Something that it is prudent to do if you have some storage space. Some folks do this if a warning of some sort issued by the authorities.


    OTOH the societal collapse scenario, which I guess is a focus of the prepper show (? haven't seen it). Most of us wouldn't stand a chance, Going without the power grid no delivery of fossil fuels... you'd best be in a location with a low population density and a food supply suitable for a hunter gathering existence, and the skills to hunt and gather, some farmers could probably get by growing their own food without power tools, wonder if even they have the tools to manually dig a garden? If you aren't physically fit forget it.

    We keep canned goods and water for scenario 1?

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