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  1. DarrylS

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    How do you know this?? Do those folks who have a lot of money and are "independent" immune from depression.. need to qualify your information.

    Depression is a medical condition that affects all strata of society...
     
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    Welcome to the Libertarian party.
     
  3. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    Ok...that's established.

    Now explain to me why Ron Paul endorsed him. Or why the Republican Liberty Caucus backed his run for congress.
     
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    It was blind payback for being endorsed by Kokesh ...
    Rand Paul needs to learn or maybe is learning that character has to figure in at some point and you just can't endorse or speak highly of people who are libertarian minded.
     
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    Were they aware that he was a nutter when they endorsed him?
     
  6. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    If not, they certainly should have been, don't you think? Isn't that the point of endorsing someone? Aren't you saying that you've thoroughly vetted the person and found him to be someone who's platform you'd fully support?
     
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    I think that's the issue here ... Paul puts too high a value on the platform.

    Kind of like my "nails it" thread ... some are more concerned about gaining power and they see these politicians with political blinders on. Stuff like this hurts Paul ...
     
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    It does. It also hurts the party which identifies with him.
     
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    The libertarian party has a long way to go and maybe will never get there.
    They would be better off as being part of a blue dog democrat - libertarians - rino republicans type of party.
     
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    Give me a break. Unless you know some magical device that allows you to see everything a person will do that's an unreasonable expectation to have.

    Should I bash the Democrats for not having known Anthony Wiener would engage in odd proclivities? You can only make a decision on info you have.
     
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    Who was the nut job, or shady cat, that the dems had to walk away from last year? There was someone that proved to be a little off kilter. At any rate, no one bats a thousand with their endorsements. That doesn't excuse endorsing a lunatic, or flawed candidate mind you. It's simply the reality. You can't know everything, about everyone. The more prominent the candidate, the more likely they've been vetted over time. The lesser the office and candidate, the less likely they've been vetted in the same way. Again, if you endorse someone, that's on you, but you can't know everything about everyone.

    How many dems knew John Racka'Tierney was running a multi-million dollar gambling ring from inside his own house? If we're lead to believe what we're told, not even John himself knew. How many people who supported Christine O'Donnell knew that she was a witch? Or is it wasn't a witch? :confused:
     
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    The pure libertarian view is a narrow view of society and social issues without a real comprehension of the scope of what it means to live in the world and how everyone actual does indeed affect one another. We live in a social ecosystem and to ignore that is naive.
     
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    You'd have to ask them
     
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    Huh? The pure anything can be considered a narrow view. We live in a country that is about to go bankrupt, if it already isn't. Look around you. Do you think things as currently constituted are dandy and sweet? I think ignorance comes with thinking that it's someone else's views that are narrow, as opposed to your own. Especially when the views you, and your opposites employ, have lead society to one of it's lowest points in the nations history. Again, the "pure" form of whatever any party spews, is narrow and naïve, but since our government is a constitutional republic, dictatorial rule shouldn't happen.
     
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    That's why I think they either have to merge with others or just remain a demographic fueled party that has a voice in the overall process - a Congress person here and there like the tea people.
     
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    One thing is certainly clear from this thread. People's basic thought process is does a person or group of people agree with my way of thinking in lockstep? If yes they're righteous. If no they're evil. Libertarians to me are for the most part fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They should to some degree appeal to both the Dems and Pubbies but instead they're evil suburbanites living in a fantasy world.

    Too funny.
     
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    Stay focused Darryl and follow the thread rather than deflecting.

    Here educate yourself instead of trolling ... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802838/
     
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    Vs what a pure Liberal or a pure Conservative? A pure Liberal is a Communist. A pure Conservative is a fascist and a pure Libertarian is a anarchist. Only the lunatic fringe would fit into those bins.

    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
     
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    I am so confused why any of the 3 thinks they have all the answers ...
    They all make some good points but none of the 3 could ever run the country.

    If any of those 3 ran this country as they saw fit we would have have serious civil unrest.
     
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    And their unwillingness to compromise on commonsense issues is why the country is such a mess. Tell a conservative to up the minimum wage or a liberal to end generational welfare and they'll act like you screwed their wife. When in fact doing one would help with the other.
     
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