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  1. Patters

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    There have been too many personal attacks, and there have been complaints. If we don't calm down a bit, and stop calling people all sorts of names and making wild accusations, we will have another period where threads are closed and posts are deleted. That's counterproductive. Please stick to the issues and stop calling each other names.
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    I think you should just suspend Quigon. He escalates every discussion, is abrasive and combative, and a disruptive figure on this board.
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    I have sent Qui a PM to initiate a cooling of hostilities.

    I await his reply and will endeavor to remain civil in all further discourse. ;)
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    So veiled threats and "tell me when and where" is a civil discourse..? You got your reply but it may not have been what you were looking for.

    I often get accused of rancor but fact is I dish out only about 15% of what gets thrown at me. I have taken the high road with several of the more hostile libbies in this group by PLONKing them. Of course, I don't get any credit for taking the high road but that's life...

    That's why Pujo and Holy Diver and Press Coverage keep bashing me but don't get the pleasure of a reply. It's a group who's exclusive company you are now joining.

    PLONK
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    That's funny, he's certainly very rough around the edges, but...

    [​IMG]


    Aren't you the one who started a thread last week that started off with:

    Seriously, what do you neocon idiots want to do about the Middle East?

    I think the attacks go both ways in here. Let's at least be fair about it.
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    This is a classic symptom of an egomaniac. Always the victim. :rolleyes:
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    Give us a break... are you saying I don't get any insults thrown my way..? That I am the one who always resorts to rancor but the liberals in this group have never done anything but engage in calm, reasoned and rational debate...?

    I said it before and I'll say it again... I dish out probably about only 15% of what gets thrown at me. Of course, if you believe the liberals in this forum, I am the only person here who has ever resorted to the occassional name calling or other such tactic.
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    Ouch!
    That will leave a scar

    Interesting interpretation of "the high road"

    HMMMMMMMM:rofl:
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    Isn't this thread turning into the very thing it was meant to stop?

    Having to call people names on a messgeboard is silly.

    having said that...PLONK this...and PLONK YOU!
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    A study on escalating arguments in this forum

    Maverick has just posted "I think you should just suspend Quigon. He escalates every discussion, is abrasive and combative, and a disruptive figure on this board." Now let's see if the facts bear out his claim..!! The following are posts from the big thread "Iran captures 15 British..." These are just the posts that involved him and I and presented in chronological order. They are edited to mostly include just the stuff that could be considered "abrasive and combative".

    Mav: The timing of this is very suspicious ... This sounds like another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident.

    QG: Always nice to hear the Blame-America-First crowd..!! Although I guess in this case it would be Blame-UK-First...?

    Mav: You're overthinking it. The US got the British to send sailors into Iranian territory

    QG: Wow... that's amazing how the British Navy and British Marines are now taking their orders directly from the U.S. conspirators. :rolleyes:

    Mav: Quigon, you're either extremely naive, or simply choose to be believe what is told to you without thinking for yourself. (Nope..!! No escalation there..!!)

    QG: No, I just have a much more thorough understanding of how these things work. And I don't default to the Blame-America-First position you and other like you just natuarally default into ... Who's the naive one here...? Me or the guy who believes everything some nutjob conspiracy theorist spouts...?"

    Mav: Do you honestly believe Iran went into Iraqi waters to capture 15 British sailors to provoke war? If you answer yes, you are probably part of the idiot 30% who STILL APPROVES of Bush. You are blind lemmings with unshakable conviction in the face of facts / reason / truth / history. (Nope..!! No escalation there..!!)

    QG: But you believe everything Ahmad-jihad says though, right...?

    Mav: Quigon, the more I talk to you, the more you come across as very simplistic. (Nope..!! No escalation there..!!)

    QG: If you don't think Iran would have motives to do these sorts of things, then you're just too stupid to partake in this conversation.

    Mav: Quigon, are you stupid enough to think that Iran wants to start a war with the UK and the US?

    QG: No. Are you stupid enough to think that rattling the saber is the equivalent of starting a war?

    Mav: This is the last time I will address you. You come across as extremely obtuse, you fit facts and events to fit your worldview, and you put words in other people's mouths. (Nope..!! No escalation there..!!)

    QG: In otherwords, you're losing the debate... Calling this another "Gulf of Tonkin" incident quite clearly implies that it is a conspiracy. And to think you call me obtuse. :rolleyes:

    Mav: I believe you are too obtuse to counter arguments, or to even understand what other people are saying, and that I am frankly tired and bored of listening to you give pointless smug lines that mean absolutely nothing. Based on your responses I can tell you see the world in a very simplistic, naive way. (Nope..!! No escalation there..!!)

    If anyone thinks these posts have been unfairly edited, I would welcome another review. But I have to say that given the above, it sure doesn't seem like I am the guilty party here...
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    Oh my ........
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    QuiGon has done nothing to deserve special censure, but some others have gone out of their way to personally attack QuiGon, sometimes very viciously.


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    God bless the little kind and caring gentle love bunny liberals, they weep, splutter and slobber about freedom, then they hit Ann Coulter in the face with Pies, they call Limbaugh a fat Pill Popping scumbag, they say Fox News should be banned, they want Sean Hannity to die and there hasn't been a filthy name invented that they haven't called their President.

    Here are a few of the names the gentle, compassionate, understanding, politically correct, decent, fair minded, kootchy kootchy coo liberals have called the President Of The United States.
    Creep
    Chimp
    Maggot
    Dirt Bag
    Scum Bag
    Coward
    Drunk
    Pig
    Bastard
    Sh!t Head
    Killer
    Murdering Bastard
    Nazi
    Isn't it strange how the Liberal Democrat will never say anything bad about a Muslim, not even Saddam or Bin Laden :confused:
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    Auntie Pelosi...al 'boob' gore.....do I need to keep going?

    come on Harry?
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    Who fired the first shot??


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    I think it was that Serbian in 1918...killed some royal something or other. :D
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    thats the $64,000 question! Ha!

    I think its all good when we call a politician a name. I understand that at times its probably the best way to get ones emotions across to the reader. I, for one, ENJOY Harry's little names. They are quite funny.

    I believe the point of Patters' post was namecalling to one another. It really makes no sense. We are all very aware of what Liberals and Conservatives think of one another. Its pointless.
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    It's not a personal attack to call a political figure names. It is a personal attack to call a member of the forum names. Harry Boy calls liberal icons every name in the book, but to his credit he never insults members of the forum. QuiGon is the least civil in this forum, in my opinion, and has been given warnings that he has chosen to post and taunt with. He's a special case. We've had cases like him before (liberal, moderate, and conservative). They are no longer participants in the forum, and are not missed.
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    That's a load of bullcrap but you're just too biased to see it. It's actually gotten to the point where I am being publicly threatened, but you would never call out a fellow liberal for such a thing. No no... instead it's "QuiGon is the least civil in this forum".

    I shall repeat myself once more: I dish out only about 15% of the insults I take. I can only imagine what people I've PLONKED are saying about me... I get to see their posts second hand every once in a while so I know those insults are out there.

    I challenge you to read my "escalation analysis" posted above (you know, the post you moved to this thread) and tell me who was the more agressive in "escalating". I look forward to your response.
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    I strongly disagree with this Patters. There are at LEAST 5 posters here who can be just as inflammatory if not more so.
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    You've been doing it longer. Those who are attacking you are still in the early warning stage, something which you left behind a number of weeks ago, after I sent you that PM which you recently posted. I am treating them in the exact same manner I've treated you -- with great patients and a generous does of liberal tolerance.
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    When or for how long is irrelevant. Its the intensity and the pure vitriol that gets thrown about here thats important.


    I for one, get tired of being called a simpleton or blind neocon simply because I dont agree 100% with the liberal mindset.
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    Nice way to dodge the question.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: You're too personally involved and biased to act as a fair moderator in these instances.
    Besides, we both know that as a moderator you can't just unilaterally ban someone. You aren't acting with "liberal tolerance," you just don't want some of your own conduct in here to be scrutinized.
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    Sounds 100% cilvil....

    Killing it as usual!...classic!
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    Well Turd, we can suspend everyone or appeal to them to be more civil. So far, I favor the latter approach. Doesn't mean someone won't get suspended, but that usually leads to a lot of pettiness, so I'm not sure how much good it does.
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    Actually, QuiGon, I can unilaterally suspend someone, but I don't and never have. (Actually, did it once, when bmf31c got fed up and decided to quit as moderator.) My conduct can be scrutinized all you want. I think I very much stay within the rules of the forum.
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    Liberals make me do it :rocker:
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    Well, let me rephrase the statement. If you were to unilaterally suspend someone, you would probably have to give reasons for and defend the decision.
    We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think you've frequently engaged in conduct unbecoming a moderator.

    In the meantime, I would like to re-issue my challenge from before. Please read the conversation I posted here between me and Maverick (or, better yet, go to the actual thread) and tell us who did the escalating in that case. I would be interested in your "impartial" analysis.
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    I agree, I love calling them names, they are the lowest form of sh!t that walks the face of the earth, they steal, they cheat, they lie, and they do dirty things in the Oval Office.

    The next time you are at the supermarket and one of your local politicians comes up to you with his big sh!t eating grin and wants to hand you his ratty card with his slimey weasle grinning picture on it smile back at him and then say, "shove your stinking card up your stinking a$s you stinking rat bastard politican" then say "I hate you politician maggot diarrhea swine"

    This goes for all partys.

    I have been holding my nose when I vote ever since Jimmy Carter saw the flying saucer.
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