Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by stevedogc, Nov 16, 2009.
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Game Highlights: Patriots at Colts
Inside five yards.....
Wow, we really are going to complain about everything to eh? lol
That's pretty mickey mouse. The contact was inside the 5 yard limit, and while Wayne made contact with his arm it didn't look like he really pushed him or gained any significant separation with it.
I don't mind complaining about really bad calls (like the spot on the 4th and 2 or the Butler PI call). But this seems to be splitting hairs.
Great play by Manning and Wayne.
that's been Randy Moss' bread and butter for years. And you want it called on the other team. that's like Micheal Jordan wanting Reggie Miller called for it when Reggie (creating space like MJ) hit the game winner in the playoffs years ago. C'mon, what's good for the gosse is good for the gander.
Agreed. I wouldn't want that called on us, and don't think it should be called on the Colts.
exactly. And I have seen Moss flagged for that call. I agree its ticky-tac, but I have seen this called offensive PI before.
It's pretty clear I am a Colts Fan, but I have tried not to bash your fans or team. You know, it's games like yesterday that make me glad I remember the little things in life...like taking my blood preasure meds. Colts/Pats always have to have the meds handy.
Looks like defensive holding by Whilite
Don't make any excuses - The Patriots owned them for 3.5 quarters and then layed an egg in the last 8 minutes.
I said nothing about the patriot fans or the team. Just pointed out how things have changed. Well I guess I did mention the videos, but that was all over the place, NFLN, ESPN...what have you.
What I've learned about this rivalry is the fans of the losing team is going to come up with a thousand excuses to try and justify their loss.
Thankfully, it's been you guys 5 of the last 6 times.
I'm done nit picking this game, its just too painful. Just like I'm done nit picking SB 42 and 07 AFCCG. Its just too painful. When oh when will karma rejoin ourside. I jus hope this lights a fire under the teams ***** instead of having a deflating effect.
In Bill we trust.
I dont know how anyone could say "the patriots owned them for 3.5 quarters"...
Q1 7 7
Q2 17 7
Q3 0 0
Q4 10 21
the pats "owned" us in Q2, we "owned" them back in Q4. Yes, the pats had the lead for most of the game, but it was an offensive struggle through the first and third quarters, and each team had their spurts in their respective quarters... statistically, there was no "owning" in this game.
Q1 7 7
Q2 17 7
Q3 0 0
Q4 10 21
So Mr. Colts fan, what say ye about the typical 4th quarter BS PI call that gives the Colts a free 7 points literally every time we play them in Indy?
In this case, I am referring to the ridiculous call against Butler. Can't wait to hear your reply...
If you are talking about the PI on Austin Colley....yes it was PI. He hit him in the back. I think Colley set it up by turning slightly and he had to wait for the ball. but techincally, yes, PI, hit him in the back with the ball in the air.
More like one quarter the second 17-7. 1st quarter 7-7, 3rd quarter 0-0 and the 4th was obviously Colts.
Oh yeah, that 3rd quarter seemed dead even, with a 150+ to 50 yards from scrimmage differential.
The clock ran out on the 3rd quarter only one play before a Patriots TD pass, and Maroney's fumble helped you out too. The entire 3rd quarter was dominated by the Patriots and their one sucessful TD drive was capped off a few seconds late to be counted in the 3rd quarter tally.
The Patriots for the game dominated in running offense, passing offense, running defense, passing defense, time of posession, punt return team, kickoff return team...need I go on?
You got lucky to win at home. You don't want a rematch in January because YOU know, the Colts know, and the Patriots know that they can hang 50+ on that sorry Colts defense if they don't screw up and make unforced errors.
Wayne didn't push off illegally (this thread is stupid). I'm even OK on the PI call. I can even live with the awful spot because of all of our other mistakes.
No excuses, you won. Just don't act like it was some sort of evenly-fought battle throughout. We let off the gas, lost some key defenders during the game, and what could have been a 51-28 rout became a 35-34 loss.
I can deal with that reality. I'm just hoping for the payback in January, a re-match that I'm sure to a man the Colts want NOTHING to do with.
Time to move on and focus on the Jets, time for the Colts fans to go back to wherever it is they came from and focus on Baltimore.
For the last time, the PI call on Butler was wrong as he was facing the ball and making a play on the ball, it is said too many times that PI is called because the defensive player isn't turned facing the ball, he was in this case and therefore, it means no PI. Called was only made because the game was in Indy and that brings up the question, why are the Pats always forced to play in Indy? Is Peyton Manning scared to come to Foxboro and play outside?
And no matter what you say, it was 1st down, the official made a bad call, his ego got in the way and he wouldn't discuss it.
And moaning about the push off is just stretching it, there was nothing there that could be called, if anything, our player should of just bearhugged Wayne and made sure he had no chance of catching the ball, atleast that way they don't score.
Time to move on and focus on the Jets now, it always good beating them but their not running their mouths as much as earlier in the season.
If the roles were reversed...you would say the only stat that matters is the score. So "NO" only one quarter score wise. I mean isn't that what it is all about, the greater score?
Some of these Pat fans are hilarious with the whole "The Colts are scared of a rematch" thing they've got going
If anything the Colts have more confidence knowing that the Patriots did almost everything they wanted to against them, the Colts played nowhere near their best game on both sides of the ball (except when it counted )
And they still lost.
Yeah, the Pats were perfect. I expect then to have two turnovers in the endzone nearly every week.
Perfect? It didn't say perfect. But over all the Pats did just about everything they wanted. Both teams were banged up, the Colts more so on defense. Some are out for the year, but the young guys will only get better as the season goes on.
More confidence? You guys are 7-8 in the postseason. We are 14-3.
I dunno how you can't feel fortunate on that PI penalty and the iffy spot on 4th and 2.
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