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    From the UK,
    Gay rights campaigner led a double life as leader of paedophile ring that carried out a catalogue of child abuse | Mail Online


    One of the perps was an advisor on sex education great.....


    Rape at Duke University, funny the MSM seem to be ignoring this case of rape, a progressive from the Duke faculity and his 'partner' adopts a couple of your black children (the progressive perv was white)

    Mike Adams : Little Boy Blue Devil - Townhall.com


    Progressives maintain that gay couples should have euqal right to adopt and act as foster parents, given that gay


    The attack on the traditional family continues by 'progressives'.
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    While we are making generalizations, is it also fair to say lesbian couples are less likey than gay male couple to engage in this type of child abuse. If women have less of a capacity to rape we should conclude that the world should only be full of lesbian couples. Not the lipstick ones, the other ones.
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    #12 Jersey

    Hmm, how long before this thread is locked?
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    When minorities play into a stereotype it hurts their cause. Those men are as sick as Jews who worked for the Nazis. But, the good news is you had to cover two continents and two months of news to make your point. Not much evidence of a trend.

    Conveniently, you don't source the info that gays are 40x more likely to be abusers. I'd like to see a legit study that supports that. The only studies that come close to making those kinds of claims are ones that assumes any man, even a married man with kids, who molests a boy is homosexual. As far as Dr. Judith Reisman Ph.D. goes, here's part of her brilliant thinking from Wikipedia: "Reisman says that there are chemicals in the brain, which she has dubbed 'erototoxins,' that are produced by watching pornography and that have toxic influences on the brain."
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    There's a coming backlash against all this homo-sex enabling. If the U.S. and Western countries don't correct this problem, then disease, or, more likely, war will do it. Islam, China, even Russia will attack and destroy any culture that allows homo-sex. Within five years, ... ten at the most, it's coming.



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    While were at it maybe we can get a backlash going to rid the planet of that criminal Sun Yun Moon and his minions.
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    You've had your shot. Happened for 40 years, and you couldn't do it. :D Too bad for you, knuckle-dragger, your day came and went.

    :rofl:


    :singing:..............................................:yeeha:


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    So you admit con man moon is well a con man.
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    Uh Patters, pretty much all Jews who could worked for Nazis... I think you mean collaborator/overseers, or kapos. Just unfortunate phrasing on that one.

    As to the stats: An adopted child is safer with gay males than straights, by and large, and safer with lesbians (as I understand it,) than with gay males. I also know arrangements such as group homes and the loving arms of the state are less than ideal "families", for all you "family" advocates.

    That said, I have an idea: How about if the government sent him to another county, and put him in charge of child services somewhere where nobody had heard of his pedophilia?

    Victory for Suit Against Pedophile Priests | Pound Pup Legacy

    Let's face it, that's what the "celibate" priesthood has done on numerous occasions. Not all priests, that's not the point. Just a far higher number than gays who adopt.

    Should priests be allowed to have contact with children, Catholic or otherwise? That's the same level of accusation, once you add the usual hot-button words like perverts and sickos and the like.

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    What exactly do you mean by homo-sex, Foggy?

    Are you aware that "homo" is a slur, like kike or nigger? Are those words okay, Patters? I don't like them. I don't know why this equally ugly term should be tolerated.

    If you mean homosexual, feel free to say homosexual. It's what everybody who wants to be read outside of fringe circles says. By the way, don't call me kike or someone else nigger either.

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    Your research and logic is completely flawed.

    You forgot cases like this one: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/248507-unbelieveable.html#post1418658

    This inhuman pervert has a "partner", with whom they adopted the child he molested, a child whom he wanted to sell for sex on line. It does not get any lower than that.

    "Safer than straights"???? Bull shiit. Your prejudice is showing.


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    I don't understand why they even allow gay peopl to adopt kids in the first place when these people didn't 'try' to have a kid with a woman.
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    Foggy, when someone like you tells me my logic is flawed, you have no idea how happy that makes me.

    In a world of six billion, we are urged to analyze trends by whatever shock headline you can dredge up. There is a much more accurate way to find out the prevalence of various behaviors among various populations, and that is the study of statistics.

    G L I D E: Statistics

    The reality, of course, is that pedophilia is its own category, whether you are gay or straight. I am in no danger, for example, of having straight sex with a child, because I like straight sex with adults. It is utterly immaterial that you have combed the wacko reactionary pages until you came up with homosexuals who are also pedophiles.

    That's pretty simple:

    See? Wife's a female, step-daughter's a female, 5-year-old girl's a female. Good old red blooded heterosexual male.

    Put it through your Fringie Filter, only in reverse, and it becomes,

    Heterosexuals Use Marriage to Procure Children For Sex!!!

    Here's another fitting the same pattern:

    http://www.co.summit.oh.us/prosecutor/newsreleases/2006/Jun/Welsh Daniel _plea_.pdf

    This was an eight-year old child.

    Here's a heterosexual Utah couple tag-teaming a girl:
    Utah couple charged with abuse of girl | Deseret News (Salt Lake City) | Find Articles at BNET
    I could do this all night, and I don't need some sensationalized tabloid to point out the comparatively rare case of gay adopters. Plenty of straight adopters and steps doing exactly the same thing.

    The spurious "link" between homosexuality and child abuse is just disgusting. It's trivializing a very real problem that happens across homosexual/heterosexual/clerical/non-clerical identification lines, and attempts to drag it into your own particlar Theocon agenda.

    Save it for dumb people. Smart people can read.

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    #87 Jersey

    IMO I think the government needs to do more to get people to adopt kids ... especially children who are minorities who get overlooked.

    I don't think you understand what being gay means ... like If your wife couldn't have children would you have one with another woman but remain with your wife?
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    Maybe that's what happened to Sanford? :confused2:
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    Sort of like that guy on Silence of the Lambs "adopting" chunky girls? Is that what you're implying?
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    Stand beside her and guide her / Through the night with the

    You really need to knock up your wife. Changing diapers has a way of reducing the need to rail against "theocons."

    But I guess it takes a "theocon" to raise a child. Liberals couldn't be bothered. Featured Article - WSJ.com

    Too demanding. Or, as Patters's friends might (and have often) say, "There go more breeders." I've never liked being called that.

    The Founding Fathers were theocons. Abraham Lincoln had that annoying habit of inserting biblical quotations in his speeches. Ever read his Second Inaugural? The extended prayer FDR gave for DDay is something conservative talk show hosts recently played. Quite remarkable. Even Ike's inaugural address, I think it was his second, had an extended prayer in which he asked the crowd to bow their heads.

    America was founded by Pilgrims, not Playboy bunnies and Hugh Hefner.

    Have you watched the HBO miniseries John Adams with Paul Giamatti? As Michael Medved, whom I adore, says in chapter three of his wonderful The Ten Big Lies About America, Adams and his wife (Laura Linney, awesome babe) sing this wildly popular song of the War for American Independence,
    Amen.

    The Declaration of Independence, written by Jefferson as you know, contains a half-dozen religious references, such as "Providence" or "the Creator."

    Washington's Farewell Address makes specific mention of the "indispensable supports" for republican government, namely, "morality" and "religion."

    Then there's the "Star-Spangled Banner":
    Same thing with "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "America":
    Tocqueville wrote of America in the 1830s: "In the United States Christian sects are infinitely diversified and perpetually modified but Christianity itself is an established and irresistible fact which no one undertakes either to attack or defend."

    To think the Founders intended a secular, not Christian, nation is a "fanciful notion" indeed. (Medved's phrase) Jews should feel safer in a Christian USA than a secular Europe. Open your eyes.
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    Re: Stand beside her and guide her / Through the night with the

    Our founder's clearly were very agnostic for their day. As I'm sure you know, the hip religious philosophy back then was Deism, and Washington's minister thought him to be one, and the Declaration of Independence with its references to things like a natural God, and no mention of Jesus or Chirstianity, seems to lean that way as well. Our Constitution of course makes no reference to God, and even the pledge of allegiance only acknowledged God about 50 years ago.

    Of course, our ethics are founded on JudeoChristian ones for the simple reason that our founders by and large came from Europe and those traditions. We are secular nation, founded on JudeoChristian values. But, even the evidence that Washington was religious is suspect, and many of our founders were not religious at all. It's clear our founders did not see religion as an important part of governing.

    Our founders clearly intended a secular nation, or they would have written the Constitution differently. For their time, our founders were modern, liberal thinkers, and even today, they are in many respects more modern in their thinking than many conservatives.
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    I'd be willing to put all my earthly wealth in a time capsule if you would do the same. If homosex marriages are allowed in 100 years, you're descendants can have it all; if not, then my descendants get it.

    You game?



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    PressCoverage even threw that line out one day, a couple of years ago. Shows you where his mind is. Reduce those who want to fulfill their purpose in life by having families by name-calling them as "breeders". Typical left-wing tactic, where name-calling is an "art" form.

    Yet, that is the goal of the free sex/homo sex movement: destroy all desire among the people to "be bothered" with having a stable two-parent (man and woman) family and raising children. Instead, just live for today, for your own selfish pleasure, your own enjoyment, your own lustful desires. Everything is about "pleasure", "fun", "enjoyment", not matter what the cost. Nothing else matters. The world is "coming to an end", anyway. That's the line.

    Hefner started with this crap, building on the "Kinsey Report", followed "Masters and Johnson", and all the other "studies" on human sexual behavior. "Live for today, because tomorrow you will be blown up by a nuke". Sounded credible to so many of the indolent "elites" back in the 50s and 60s, exploded into a national movement from the 70s until today. Such a viewpoint is indeed the "end of the world", but it's not how it is going to be.

    Sadly, there may be some -- possibly quite a few -- who go down the tubes following this hopeless, mindless, spiritless cant, but it will not be that way for others who see beyond this lie. God is not dead, He is alive. And His will shall be done on earth; already started, in fact.


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    Re: Stand beside her and guide her / Through the night with the

    You're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. I backed up mine. Read Medved's chapter three. He even brings up Jefferson having the gov't subsidizing a Catholic priest. These secular purists are far, far removed from the Founding Fathers.

    ***"Even Harvard's Laurence Tribe, the most esteemed liberal scholar of his generation, has acknowledged: 'A growing body of evidence suggests that the Framers principally intended the Establishment of Religion Clause to perform two functions: to protect state religious establishments from national displacement, and to prevent the national government from aiding some but not all, religion.'" (page 83, Ten Big Lies About America by Michael Medved)***

    At the time of the Constitutional Convention (1787) six of the thirteen states had a state religion that tax monies directly supported: NH, Mass, Conn., Maryland, SC, and Georgia.
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    Re: Stand beside her and guide her / Through the night with the

    You're definitely on to something, Fogbuster.

    You and Arthur Brooks.

    I would add that feminism's distortion that the married life is unworthy and degrading has been a very deleterious and sad propaganda that has ruined many women's lives.

    I'm reminded of Meg Greenfield, who rose to the highest echelons of journalism though few today probably remember her even though she died just ten years ago last May, having a sadness in her soul she never had had children.

    Careers should be opened to women, but the exclusivity with which they are taught to pursue it could lead to much regret later on.
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    To me the best evidence is in the way the Declaration of Independence and Constitution handle religion. There's no getting around the facts there. Beyond that, religious people like Medved can certainly find evidence that those men were not completely removed from religion. Also, it's absolutely true if you go outside of the founders you find more and more ordinary, ignorant people who used religion to justify slavery, sexism, and other forms or repression. Our founders were very exceptional men in a sea of ordinary people who used religion much the same way many conservatives (certainly not all) use religion today.

    As far as Tribe goes, I'd need to see exactly what he said. Medved's interpretation is probably about as good as Rush Limbaugh's interpretation would be.
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    Arthur Brooks is right. And Meg Greenfield reflects what so many women are finding out, but only too late. A woman's most special and unique role is that of a mother. She's the only one who can do that, while any man can work in the work place. Big deal. Careers, making lots of money, living the "comfortable life" ..... what good are these things if the most important thing, having a family and children to whom you can give the most precious things in life to, are missing??


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    That is one funny post.
    Ooogie Boogie!

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