Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by PonyExpress, Mar 15, 2008.
HAHA! Do you now understand why I don't go to that website, unless someone from this board (or another) post a link to something they've penned?
that mock must be a joke...
Maybe Miami is floating they want Dorsey as a negotiating ploy for when they enter into discussions with Ryan later on. I believe Ryan's agent is Brady Quinn's agent, and there would be alot of pressure on that agent to cut a deal and not have his player drop into draft hell like Quinn did.
You guys might think it's a joke but anything can happen. Did anybody think Ted Ginn Jr. would go #9 to Miami? My friends and I were laughing when they announced that pick. How about Justin Harrell to the Green Bay Packers? Who the hell is that? My point is, draft days are weird. However, If McFadden is still available at #7, it would be a perfect situation to trade out. Some team is going to want McFadden. But if there are no trading partners, don't be surprised to see McFadden in a Patriots uniform. I know I won't. If the Pats feel he is the best available, they will not hesitate to take him.
The only thing that bothers me about most mock drafts is Felix Jones going to the Cowboys. I can guarentee you the Cowboys will not take him. Just because he went to Arkansas, doesn't mean Jerry Jones is going to take him. Jerry Jones likes McFadden, not Felix Jones. In fact, Felix Jones will not be a first round pick. Everyone thought Jones was a speed burner yet McFadden made him look pedestrian at the combine. McFadden is a better prospect and will be a better player. Jones is overrated, not McFadden.
Im really starting to feel like Gholston will go to oakland. They lost Brayton in free agency, Burgess is on the last year of his contract and could be gone after this year. I wouldnt be surprised one bit if Oakland took him its a smart move if they do.
BTW, if C. Long is still available at #5 and KC doesn't want him, the Pats should definitely trade up. He's Jared Allen without the alcohol.
Justin Harrel was a very good player at Tennesse (graded at 90-92), and we talked about him on here a number of times. He had top 10-15 talent/potential, but some people thought he could fall after suffering that biceps tear during his senior season. He showed guts by trying to play through that injury at first, but ended up having to miss 10 games. So, you're "Who the hell was that?" remark doesn't make much sense to me.
Yea, With his freakish combine and pro day numbers you've got to think Al Davis is very interested in Gholston, as he (Al Davis) likes football players with top measurables. So, I think it's either Gholston or McFadden at 4th, and either Gholston or McFadden at 6th.
That's why during the draft the "experts" where puzzled when Green Bay took him. Nobody has heard of the guy. I don't remember anybody on this board talking about him.
Go ask dryheat, BOR, or some of the other posters if we talked about Justin Harrell. We did, and a number of times, too. He was among the few D-linemen some of us liked, and thought could play in NE's 3-4.
With Harrell coming off that Biceps tear, NFLDraftCountdown's final rankings still had Harrell as the third DT behind Alan Branch and Amobi Okoye. They ranked him as the 28th prospect overall.
NFLDraftscout had him as the third ranked DT.
Scouts Inc. Graded Harrell out at a 90
Gosselin had Harrell ranked 28th overall.
Mike Mayock had Harrell going in the first round in his final mock
Todd McShay had Justin Harrel going 23rd overall:
So, what draft expert are you talking about? Mel Kiper?
It's not out of the realm of possibility that the Chiefs would select Gholston either. He'd potentially turn that defensive line into a Giants-like nightmare with Jared Allen on the other end.
That said, that mock looks awful. McFadden for the Patriots with Clady still on the board? Chris Long lasting until the Jets? Quentin Groves out of the 1st round?
Why wouldn't the Raiders take Howie's kid? Seems like it'd be a perfect fit...
If this mock plays out, the Pats wind up with McFadden or Long if the Jets go McFadden. I'll take it.
Yea, if the Patriots land Chris Long at 7th overall I'll probably sh*t my pants!
I think the Broncos had Harrell in their sights too, and when GB selected him, they immediately traded up to select the last D-lineman they had with a first round grade - Jarvis Moss. (speculation on my part as a close follower of the Donkeys) Regardless, there were a lot of Bronco fans hoping for Harrell at #21.
Kentwan Balmer is this year's Justin Harrell, for what it's worth. Third DT on most boards, mid-to-late first round grade.
Wow. Really, Harrell was an unknown?
Ha, I brought you up in particular because I remember BOR and yourself as being the other two posters who liked him the most. I made at least one thread about him either on here or ESPN (I didn't go back to check), and thought he could be a serious option if he was still available for one of NE's two first rounders.
Speaking of BOR, I wish he still posted on this board, as he was among the more intelligent posters, and interesting to bounce prospects off. He was fun to argue with too.
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