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Christopher Price | Pats Closing In On Deals With Chung, Ingram
Good news no distractions when TC opens...
But this is expected behavior of this franchise
Very informative and well researched piece. :yeeha:
Chris's reports indicate that the Patriots are going to get every one
(except possibly McKenzie) into camp on time. To date only three
signings have been officially announced. Until contracts are signed and
approved by the league nothing is official. Either the league is slow in
approving contracts or the Patriots are taking their time finalizing
contracts and submitting them to the league.
Good stuff lets get these guys signed and ready for camp can't wait!
Bring on CHUNG!
Based on the contracts quote and "suggested" by contracts above and below the pick, do the Pats have a problem with the size of their rookie pool?
As I understand it, if you are the last to be signed and there is only 1 $dollar left in the rookie pool, all you can get is one buck. Isn't that correct?
The Pats do not have a problem with their rookie pool.
If a team has less than $310,000 (the minimum salary now for a rookie) left in their rookie pool and still has one unsigned player, they can not sign that player at all. The Eagles ran into that situation a while back with Raheem Brock (IIRC).
FWIW I read this at a Browns board :
"Additionally, there's some talk in the agent community that the contracts signed by the draft picks of the New England Patriots are below market. That could play a role in extended and tougher-than-expected negotiations not only for the Browns, but for teams all across the league."
Which might be why Chung has been a little slower than the others, although his timeframe for signing seems to be coming along fine.
IF this is really the case (I'm skeptical) then kudos to BB for finding a way to screw the rest of the teams, delaying the arrival of their higher paid draft picks to training camp thus giving the Pats a jump and an edge.
I should have mentioned that this was from an "insider" who isn't prone to making stuff up, not a regular poster. Not that it's true for sure by any means, but based on who wrote it I tend to put some credence behind it.
If it's true, do you think it points to a slight shift in strategy with the new personnel regime? Sign 'em fast before comps are available, so that you set the market?
Tough to be "below market" when there isn't a market yet.
Obviously there is an expected market.
Four second round picks have signed, three of them are Patriots. Make of it what you will.
That's the whole idea, no?
I don't know, but we do seem to be more ahead of the game so far than before. So far it seems like Pioli is the one more into running the closed ship than Belichick but maybe that's because he's just starting the operation over there. Also it was interesting that the Patriots continued their trading ways on draft day whereas the Chiefs made just one, inconsequential trade. One year means little but it is interesting to watch the two trends.
I'm sure that there was an expected market for buying really crappy mortgages, too. Nonetheless, you can't be below market if you are the one setting the market price in the absence of a market.
I have no doubt there is a market now, it's just a negotiations market not a signed market. If the #2 picks around our picks were negotiating for something higher than we signed our guys for, it's below market. But I'm not going to quibble about the definition of "market".
As stated, three of the four signed #2 picks are Patriots and I'm very happy about that.
Interesting and very informative. Thanks Miguel.
Mac's Football Blog: 2009 NFL Rookie Signing Status
Which deals are below market???
Hmmmm. Increases average over 5% more than last year. How many posters here earn >5% more than they did last year?
As I said, "I'm skeptical"
I just quoted what I read from someone who is usually a reliable source. I don't get into the numbers, as long as we aren't overpaying the production on the field, what's on the field is all I care about.
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