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    Who do you think will be the defensive starters on opening day?

    - At safety I think it will be Meriweather and Sanders
    - At corner I think it will be Bodden and Wilhite
    - At OLB Burgess (on passing downs, Woods on obvious running downs) and A.Thomas.
    - At ILB Mayo, just Mayo with Guyton on obvious passing downs. Bruschi will be more of a situational player or backup, not a starter, leading to the next point.
    - On the D-line I won't be surprised if we start out with as much or more 4-3 than 3-4. Seymour and Wilfork inside, Warren and Green/Burgess outside depending on the situation.
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    I agree with nearly all of it except Springs could open in Week 1 vs Buffalo since he is the corner who knows T.O the most. I do believe Wilhite will start in week 2.
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    Whoever starts will have to be prepared to be on the field for the duration of the series. The Bills are No Huddle now. So specifically, who starts?
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    I cant imagine not starting Springs against TO
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    I can totally see Whilhite & Bodden as the starters both for the season and for the Bills game.

    I see Guyton, Mayo, Thomas, Woods... mostly because I'll believe the 4-3 when I see it in regular season games. Not to say I oppose it, in fact I would like to see more of it. It's just been said so many times that BB would go to 4-3 because of injuries to the LB corps and he never does.

    So, I see Warren, Wilfork, and Sey on the DL.

    Safeties will be Sanders and Merriweather. THat combo is the one I'm most confident in (as far as starting, not necessarily production).
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    Pretty much what we saw last night. Did you notice how much more damage Wilfork does when he's in a 4-3 alignment? He was flat out owning fools last night. Here's how I see it.

    Early downs:

    DE: Warren
    DT: Wright
    DT: Wilfork
    DE: Seymour
    OLB: Thomas
    MLB: Mayo
    OLB: Guyton
    CB: Springs
    CB: Bodden
    S: Merriweather
    S: Sanders

    Passing downs:
    DE: Green
    DT: Wright/Warren
    DT: Seymour
    DE: Burgess
    OLB: Thomas
    MLB: Mayo
    OLB or DB: Guyton or Wilhite or Chung
    CB: Springs
    CB: Bodden
    S: Merriweather
    S: Sanders
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    The Bills will have Mr Ugly in detention for 4 games. If the Pats play the run as well as they did last night and since the Bills have Owens and Evans, they will have to be pass happy to beat the Pats in this game. I say the Pats start out with a pass rush defense.

    Warren, Wilfork, Seymour, Burgess
    Thomas, Mayo, TBC
    Bodden, Springs
    Merriweather, Sanders
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    Early downs:

    LE: Warren
    LDT: Wright/Brace
    RDT: Wilfork
    RE: Seymour
    SLB: Thomas
    MLB: Mayo
    WLB: Guyton/Woods
    LCB: Springs/Wilhite
    RCB: Bodden
    FS: Sanders
    SS: Meriweather

    Passing downs:

    LE: Burgess
    LDT: Green
    RDT: Seymour
    RE: Banta-Cain
    LLB: Thomas
    RLB: Mayo
    LCB: Springs/Wilhite
    RCB: Bodden
    NB: Wilhite/Butler
    FS: Sanders
    SS: Meriweather

    Chung?
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    When has Burgess played at OLB to justify that prediction?
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    So everyone's jumping on the 4-3 bandwagon except for me ? Don't say I didn't warn you (or remind me for my foolishness if the 4-3 is used more than 75% of the time).
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    Do we call it a 4/3 if Bergess is at the LOS?
    Than do we call it a 5/2 When Adalius puts his hand in the dirt, too?
    We might want to factor Ron Brace in the mix.
    Now it's 6/1 with Mayo minding the lone linebacker role.
    Either way you cut it, we're going to have a real good front 7 on D.:D
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    No, but we call it DE when you never stand up.
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    With Tedy gone now, not sure if we have the ILB depth now for a predominantly 3-4.
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    The defense is switching to a 4-3. Bank on it! Even with Bruschi, the Pats are better equipped to run a 4-3. The prospect of having a starting 3 of Mayo, Thomas and Guyton really excites me. Also, this will allow Burgess to concentrate on what he does best, rush the passer as a DE.
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    Mike Dowling on WCVB says that this means the pats are going predominate 4-3.Tedy just would not fit in a 3-LB alignment.
    Bad news for Pierre Woods,IMO
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    BB has always sought to put the best players on the field. In past years, 4 LBs were always among them, but I do not see it now. In addition to the big three, they still have Green and Wright, and now Brace and Pryor. (Even Williams and Adams have shown something.) Burgess and TBC have been 3rd down DEs so far. After Mayo and AD, I'm not even sure who will play LB in the base defense. Would you add Guyton and Woods instead of, say, Guyton/Woods and Wright/Green/Brace/Pryor?
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    I don't see the Bruschi link at all. Tedy was the starting Mike in 2001 when we played 4-3 exclusively. His retirement has nothing to do with the formation and everything to do with his ability to play the game in general.

    However, I must admit the LB position is looking quite weak for the 3-4, especially OLB. So we may be seeing 4-3 as the core D with some 34 thrown in at times.
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    Does Paris Lenon fit into any of these equations???
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    How could he NOT ??? He is the greatest athlete to wear #46 !!!

    Seriously, this Bruschi move does put a damper on my "watch for the 3-4 defense regardless" quote... Maybe I'll need to rethink my strategy. But... Woods isn't in danger - but rather in danger of playing a bit less.
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    He's probably the best we have as a MLB backup if Mayo gets hurt.
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    Will Crable ever play a down for this team???

    I've been on the 4-3 bandwagon before they even broke it out (people told me I was stupid when I brought it up before the pre-season even started).

    Opening Night:

    DE: Seymour
    DT: Wilfork
    DT: Wright
    DE: Warren

    OLB: Thomas
    OLB: Guyton
    MLB: Mayo

    CB: Whilite
    CB: Bodden
    SS: Meriweather
    FS: Sanders

    Cuts: Woods & Alexander
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    A thoughtful line-up, although I do not agree with your cuts. I could see Woods starting instead of Guyton who is a better fit in the 3-4. Lenon also could make it as reserve MLB.
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    Same here, bud. Now the 4-3 deniers are starting to see the light. I remember the reaction I got when I said the Pats could cut Bruschi because he had no role on this team -- first week of August?
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    Disagree. Guyton would probably even be a better fit at WLB in a 4-3 than ILB in a 3-4, because who knows if he's at the point where he could sustain the type of physical punishment he'd receive in the latter.

    And as for cutting Woods AND Alexander... are you nuts?
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    I'm still not convinced this move to the 4-3 is permanent. Belichick has tricked us before with the 4-3 in the preseason playing it almost exclusively in I think the 2006 preseason when the ILB spot was in question (Seau was signed in late August of that year kinda paralleling the addition of Burgess this year in mid-August).
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    Seau led to the Pats playing the 3-4, as a ILB.

    Burgess has led the Pats to playing the 3-4, as an OLB? Really?

    I seem to remember Burgess playing DE exclusively. ;)
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    Agree. Guyton makes a better 4-3 WLB than a 3-4 SILB.
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    I don't see Lenon not making this team with Bruschi retiring. I still think there is a good chance the Pats play a lot of 3-4 (if not as their base) and they will need him to be there in ILB. Until they start the regular season in the 4-3, I will not be convinced they are moving to it. Not that I don't see the evidence on the field in the preseason, but I have seen this evidence before.
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    Well, he's been playing as a OLB in the 4-3. I'd guess Alexander would get the nod, even though he's also been playing OLB. The 3rd MLB behind Mayo and Bruschi was Ciurciu.
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