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  1. patsfan13

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    Many see Corporations are all powerful entities who run the world. I have never ascribed to this view. Kodak just went into Chap 11, just 35 years ago they controlled 90% of their market and had the highest rated brand in the US, now they are on their way out taking over 100k jobs with them, good paying jobs. They knew their world was changing and tried to adapt, but weren't successful.

    Interesting read this applies to many businesses who see they day in the sun then are consumed by the marketplace.

    Technological change: The last Kodak moment? | The Economist



    This article on how the unemployment numbers are being manipulated, The Great, Obama Unemployment Rate Scam


    The Great, Obama Unemployment Rate Scam | Liberty Works |


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    So what would the rate be if we didn't delete people from the workforce?

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    Let me remind you of the Great Communicator, Ronnie Raygun.. he changed the way we count unemployed, he just got rid of the discouraged folks that were counted during the Carter Administration.. poof it looked miraculous, while in reality nothing really changed.

    But he sure looked good.. now you want to change the rules on something based from the Liberty Foundation..
     
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    #80 Jersey

    remember when PF13 was screaming about the unemployment #s when Bush was president, using the same BS tactics to defalte them as ALL previous presidents? no?

    neither do I.

    Did you know that REagan's unemployment # was also 9.5% at the same point in his glorious presidency?

    No?

    9.5% unemployment and the Reagan-Obama parallel - Unemployment - Salon.com

    I'd hate to see a conservative bash Reagan's legacy like this. Shame.



    quick rule of thumb for all those who look at the unemployment #s...


    They are about TWICE as high as they statistics show due to under-employed, the military, and those hwo are no longer looking for work.
     
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    Well let's look at the Workforce participation rate and unemployment under Reagan, from the same article you apparently never read.


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    So the facts are exactly the opposite of your ill informed opinion.


    That sort of performance looks great compared to the moron in the WH currently.
     
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    Ill informed opinion?? Need I remind you of the complete lack of intelligence that you pursued on the "KISS" Marine Scout Thread... the reality is Reagan changed the way we counted unemployed, and now the right wants to go backwards to fit their agenda.

    So you expect me to believe this diatribe from Liberty Works, looks like some numbers have been cooked..

    When you come back with a reliable source bring it, until then keep scouring those right wing blogs...

    Reagan changed the way we count unemployed..

    World Net Daily did a poll this week that indicates that 20% of Republicans favor Obama.. interesting.
     
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    #18 Jersey

    PF13 hasn't written anything about changing the way we look at unemployment, his point is "the manipulation of the labor force participation rate" which has nothing to do with your comments.

    Even if the Reagan's advisors never changed the way unemployment was reported, the "labor force participation rate" could still be wrong or manipulated. Which is what appears to be happening now.

    Can you explain why our gov't keeps dropping the labor force participation rate in a manner never seen before?
     
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    Because the source is agenda driven, and often to make a point data is manipulated to meet the POV of the blog... if it were a neutral site, then it may have some cred, but right now it is just another persons biased opinion.

    Liberty Works
     
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    #18 Jersey

    FACT is, the labor force participation numbers in PF13's chart are dead-on correct.

    Our federal gov't just pulled over 1 million people out of the labor force this month. That's the only reason our unemployment number went down .3 points.

    It's not because suddenly a boatload of people have found jobs.

    Typically, after the holidays, the unemployment number goes up because all the extra help hired for holiday sales, are let go.

    I've posted several threads about how our gov't is manipulating our unemployment numbers for over 2 years. I have even asked if some members are ok with our gov't lying about unemployment number and some have been foolish enough to say they are in fact ok with it.
     
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    If you say it is a fact that is proof positive as far as I am concerned.. :rolleyes:;):confused::confused:;);):rolleyes:

    No further discussion needed..
     
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    #18 Jersey

    You may go the gov't employment website and confirm this if you like. Or you can randomly state the website is manipulating the numbers.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

    Fact is, it's our gov't that's manipulating the numbers. Mainstream news had several reports discussing the labor force participation rates over the past 2 weeks.

    This isn't a blog conpiracy issue Darryl.
     
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    At this point, your thread was immediately horrible.

    You cited one corporation that deals with cameras. zzz

    Gee, what a trend. Worse, you admit you believe corporations aren't all-powerful entities, ignoring the many dozen that ARE precisely that.
     

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