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    QB - Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
    RB - Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, (Larsen/Fiametta)
    WR - Welker, Lloyd, Branch, (Ochocinco/Stallworth/Gonzalez), (Edelman/Ebert), Slater
    TE - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Fell
    OT - Solder, Vollmer, Cannon
    OG - Mankins, Waters, Gallery
    OC - Koppen, Connolly, Wendell

    DL - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, Brace, Pryor
    DE/OLB - Ninkovich, Jones, Cunningham, (Scott/Carpenter), Bequette
    ILB - Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Fletcher, White
    CB - McCourty, Arrington, Dowling, Allen, (Moore/Cole/Dennard)
    S - Chung, Wilson, Gregory, (Barrett/Ebner)

    P - Mesko
    K - Gostkowski
    LS - Aiken


    - Looking to get younger and deeper on defense? Mission accomplished.

    - Great competition at LB, and if Andre Carter comes back, some really good players are going to get cut.

    - Based on his draft position, I project Wilson as a starter. But who knows?

    - I don't see the weak link on the roster. Maybe OT, which feels a bit thin with Light gone.

    - Surprised that Hoyer wasn't dealt today.
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    Oh no :eek: .... MG alert in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - he won't be sleeping for 2 days until he figures it out.
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    Mankins will be starting the year on the PUP more than likely. When camp starts, he'll be 5.5-6 months post op.. For a big man, it's unlikely he'll be ready to start the season.

    Don't be surprised to see someone like Wendell dealt/cut in favor of keeping the younger McDonald.

    Ebert is likely a PS player unless Edelman is dealt. But Edelman was the Pats best return man for Kicks and Punts last year, allowing the Pats to keep Welker off the punt return unit except very few situations.

    I don't see Wilson being a starter this year. I do expect him to get some reps, giving both Chung and Gregory reps. We could also see McCourty or Dowling back there as well.
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    Mankins, as noted above, opens an Opening Day slot.

    Allen could easily fall to a younger guy.

    Despite all the other LBs, Koutivides/Tarpinian might make it along with White, especially since some of the other "Big STer" positions look a little think (RB, TE, big S).
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    OP wheres Kettani? I think he has a legitimate shot and making it into the backfield 5.
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    I've seen Ebert play a few times. Once in person, and on tv quite a bit. I like their coach Fitzgerald. And, their last two qb's Kafka and Persa(pa kid). Don't sell him short. Edelman will have all he can do to keep his spot. 75 rec 1060yds 11 td. Blackmon's APC was 12.6 and Floyd's was 11.5 this past year. Ebert's APC was 14.1
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    Bequette should be listed ahead of Cunningham ... :nosmile: it's what Cunningham deserves.
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    Cunningham has not done anything to earn that spot......
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    Scribble Barrett out, hes useless.
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    CB: Mccourty, Arrington, Dowling, Moore, Dennard.

    5 CBs aged 26 or below, talented too. I prefer that over keeping Allen.
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    Aside from Welker, Edelman is the only legitimate punt returner on the roster.

    If anything, Deion Branch and Anthony Gonzalez will be sweating it out for a roster spot if Jeremy Ebert, wide receiver from Northwestern, is the real deal.
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    Bobby Carpenter doesn't play DE does he? Isn't he after the Guyton spot?
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    I'm always annoyed when I see Moore on the bubble. The guy got us to the Superbowl.

    If anything, it is Allen that should be worried.

    Also, I'm a little amused that OP assumes so many of our picks will be starters/not on the bubble. White isn't going anywhere.
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    Hopefully, Will Allen is nothing more than training camp fodder.
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    Trading him for a pick in this draft would've been a terrible move. Wouldn't surprise me if he's traded later this offseason, but for a 2013 pick.
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    I agree with this. This would also open up a roster spot.
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    Although it makes you wonder if nobody would give up a 2nd for him this year in a crappy draft year what we could get for him for next year.
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    At first glance the OT depth is concerning to me as well. But then I realized that we are blessed in that Mankins and Gallery both have experience playing T (albeit not at super high levels but they are at least good enough for mid-game plugins). God bless ver-suh-til-a-teh!
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    Connolly and McDonald too, worst case scenario. Koppen and Wendell are the only two guys who have much of a chance of making the roster that didn't play left tackle in college.
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    I'm surprised Cleveland took Weeden (and with a first) when a younger QB with a higher ceiling is sitting 3rd on our depth chart. That shows the ineptitude of some boring thinking.
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    Not as worrisome as the depth on the defensive line:

    Wilfork
    Love
    Brace
    Deaderick
    Fanene
    Pryor
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    I don't think Branch is safe and I would lump all the WRs outside Welker and Lloyd in one group, with 3 likely surviving. Should put Slater in a ST category since that is how he is a lock for the roster.

    Agree with others that McDonald should be represented here somewhere. He did get a couple of starts and did very well. Has the size to fill in at guard if needed, while Wendell is very undersized.

    If it is true the Pats signed Marcus Forston as an UDFA (and he is healthy), I would include him in the mix here.

    Agree with others that Carpenter belongs in the ILB mix competing with Fletcher. I see Scott eventually competing with Andre Carter when healthy and Cunningham on the outs.

    As mentioned, I see Fletcher and Carpenter competing for one spot. White should be listed with Slater on ST since I doubt he takes snaps from the rest of this crew.

    I wouldn't put Dowling behind Arrington if that was your intention. Your listing should also include (Dennard/Law) since if Dennard stays out of jail, he makes this team. Allen isn't safe and Cole should be competing on ST.

    The Pats signed Gregory to a 3-year deal so he is going to play. He may lose some snaps to Wilson over time, but Gregory should be starting game #1. I can see Barrett and Moore competing for a roster spot. Ebner is clearly a ST-only guy this year.

    So I see Slater, White, Niko, Tarpinian, Lavarias, Cole, MalWilliams, Ventrone and Ebner competing for core ST roles. That is a lot so clearly not all of them make it. Where any of them fits on the positional depth chart is irrelevant. They need to fill out all the kicking game roles (ie - don't need 4 gunners).
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    Mesko has experience punting with 4 gunners at Michigan, I think on some punts we could see Ebner, Wilson, Slater all gunning, with a possibility for a 4th gunner (Edelman?)
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    The only way I see this happening is if the Pats bring in 2-3 QBs from the Street and UDFA ranks and find one who can show some modicum of aptitude for the Pats offense.
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    Hoyer is a UFA next year. All teams would have to give up for him is a contract...
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    Neither Hoyer nor Mallett have the skill set for the WCO, which is what they are attempting to run in Cleveland. This was brought up by the National Pundits as well as the local ones.
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    By calling those players "the defensive line," aren't you presupposing a 2004-style defensive front? Call those players "defensive tackles" and add Chandler Jones, Trevor Scott, Jake Bequette and Jermaine Cunningham to the DL depth and things look pretty different.
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    Much will depend on how other teams QB situation shakes out but I still see a possibility of Hoyer being traded in the preseason, especially if Mallet has improved.

    Hoyer is gone next season in the hopes of making it as a starter. Might as well get a draft pick for him from a team in need than nothing, and I certainly am not hoping for a situation in which he gets a lot of playing time here.

    We've carried only 2 QBs before - it could happen again
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    If we sign a UDFA QB that COULD be (not saying it will be) a tip off that Hoyer could be traded. Mallett's development would be key.



    Depending on injury this could be a great roster.
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    Some great feedback

    - I'm skeptical on Kettani, myself, but I'll put him on the chart
    - Have to admit that Branch is not a sure thing... although I think it's pretty certain
    - I'm also pretty sure that Edelman/Ebert is a one-sided competition. There is nothing Ebert can do to unseat Edelman. If he makes the roster, it's either the strength of his ST or because we don't believe he'll clear waivers
    - Added McDonald, who did a nice job at the end of the season.
    - Moved Carpenter back to ILB. I've been bouncing him between there and OLB, but my impression he's more of a drop into coverage guy than a hand in the dirt guy.
    - I will accede to the popular perception that Cunningham is at risk, although I dont believe it. I think fans are too ready to give up on him after a disappointing sophomore season where he was locked out, injured, and overshadowed by veteran FAs Carter and Anderson... both departed.
    - I re-stacked the secondary, pushed Slater, White, Ebner and Cole to dedicated ST position, put Moore and Barrett into competition for one S role... and in doing so freed up a roster spot that I've given to ST and listed as (Koutouvides/Tarpinian)

    I think this is a better representation...

    QB - Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
    RB - Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, (Larsen/Fiametta/Kettani)
    WR - Welker, Lloyd, 2 of (Branch/Ochocinco/Stallworth/Gonzalez), (Edelman/Ebert)
    TE - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Fell
    OT - Solder, Vollmer, Cannon
    OG - Mankins, Waters, Gallery
    OC - Koppen, Connolly, (Wendell/McDonald)

    DL - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, Brace, Pryor
    DE/OLB - Ninkovich, Jones, (Cunningham/Scott), Bequette
    ILB - Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, (Fletcher/Carpenter)
    CB - McCourty, Arrington, Dowling, (Allen/Dennard)
    S - Chung, Wilson, Gregory, (Barrett/Moore)

    P - Mesko
    K - Gostkowski
    LS - Aiken
    ST - Slater, White, (Ebner/Cole), (Koutouvites/Tarpinian)


    If I'm Nick Caserio, I'm not thrilled by the competition on the interior DL, and I'd love to add some OT prospects into the system. Otherwise, this team is pretty much ready for Training Camp.
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