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Which tight ends make the final 53?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2009.
  1. Ben Watson

    80.6%
  2. Alex Smith

    93.9%
  3. Chris Baker

    91.8%
  4. Dave Thomas

    59.2%
  5. Tyson DeVree

    5.1%
  6. A tight end not currently on the roster

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. None of the above tight ends will make the cut

    1.0%
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  1. Deus Irae

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    With the Hall Of Fame Game, the exhibition season has started. It's no longer just practices. With that, let's get some people on record, just for fun. Obviously, it's still early, so things can change, but lets pass some time.

    Which tight ends do you think will make the final 53, who will be cut, and will any of them be traded?
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    Watson because of his ability, Baker because of his blocking, Smith because the Pats just traded for him and Thomas because of his receiving ability. DeVree doesn't make it.
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    That's the same list I have. However, that's a lot of potential starting tight ends to keep. If anybody else (besides DeVree) is to not make the final 53, I would suspect that it's Thomas.
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    Im going to go the risk that Ben Watson will be delt to Kc for a third and a fifth.. I think the only sure lock is Baker..
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    Interesting. K.C. could definitely use him. The "Replace Gonzalez" experiment is off to a very rocky start, with the expected replacement really struggling.
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    I think the Watson experiment is over unless they keep 4. They should lock him in a room with Maroney and keep the one that comes out alive. Smith, Baker, and Thomas maake the team as Thomas finally gets out of the doghouse.
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    I went with Watson, Baker and smith, I dont think they're keeping 4 with all the receivers/DB's we have that are also ST'ers. And to be honest im not as down on Watson as everyone else seems to be. From a pure talent standpoint I have him as the best TE on the roster with Alex Smith not far behind.
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    Bye-Bye Wendy's guy. Good luck in the CFL.
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    I voted for Watson, Baker & Thomas. Every year BB has lots of them in camp then goes with whomever he had last year and a vet (this is probably too much of a generalization, but this is what it feels like).
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    Why is everyone so sold on Baker? I was never impressed with him with the Jets, and he caught zero TDs last year. Why on earth is he "the only lock??"
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    It is certainly an interesting battle.
    I think Alex Smith has looked good in camp so far and with the trade I figure he is a lock.
    Despite Watson's drop off the last year or so I still think he is a lock because he has the rapport with brady and his stats as a reciever are better than the others plus he seems to be getting better at blocking.
    Baker is probably the best blocker of the group and we have kind of missed that a little since Grahmbo left. Plus he has made some nice plays vs us with the Jets and the way players perform VS us has always stood out to BB (see Welker, Morris, and Lewis as examples).
    Thomas..if you asked me before camp I would have been stupid like most and held a grudge over his bonehead play and lack of performance but to be fair he was hurt and I have been moaning people over Slater and his one play. But anyway I have been really impressed with him throughout this camp.
    Devree has some really nice hands and he shows them off with plenty of nice catches in camp but I just don't see how he can beat out the other guys.

    But really I don't think this question is easy to answer because I don't know if we wind up carrying 3 or 4....it is easy to say that we will carry 4 because we dont have a FB but than people want 5 running backs and I don't think we can keep 9 guys from these two positions so either the 4th TE goes or Lawfirm goes or maybe both go and we keep Edelman as the 5th WR and Aiken and Ventrone as STers. one thing is for sure there will be a bunch of tough decisions and TE will likely be one of them.
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    Same here.
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    I agree,We sent a former jet packing for home last year (Hobson) and this former Jet is going to be another a year later - Blocking TE will not save his job

    Smith,Watson and Thomas are your 3 TEs on the opening roster..you heard it here first :cool:
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    I don't question that Baker could potentially be sent home but I do question that blocking could save him...the other 3 would seem to have some similar skill sets and offering a different look could be more valueble but than again maybe BB is happy to keep using OL as blocking TEs. IMO this is one of the most wide open battles on the team as I could see all 4 or any of the 4 making it but I dont see Devree in that mix though he has looked good too.
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    You have a better chance in selling your home for what you paid for it right now than DeVree making the roster,He had hopes as a #3 until Smith and Baker were signed,now its all but gone IMO.

    Graham was a great blocker and he was clutch on many a third and long play that people don't give him credit for - I don't think from what I have seen from Baker as a Jet that shows he is going to be clutch when it counts,Blocking does help him here but he may need a helluva preseason to gain a spot

    I think the team dumps DeVree after this weeks game and keeps the other 4 vying for position till the last minute 53 man cut
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    His blocking skills which would greatly help this offensive line protect a quarterback coming off of major knee surgery. He's the best blocking tight end on the team.
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    Wasn't Kyle Brady signed for the exact same thing in 2007 for his superb blocking skills but less skills than an average receiving TE? - And what did he produce for the team?..that's right,nada and never was the blocker here he was expected to be.

    I think Baker is a younger version of Kyle Brady...Oh by the way,what team did Kyle play for before?,the Jets - Ironic isn't it? :cool:
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    I would have loved to see whether or not Brady takes less hits in Super Bowl XLII if Kyle Brady was in.
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    Patriots journal: Watson might be hearing footsteps

    Patriots journal: Watson might be hearing footsteps by Shalise Manza Young of the Providence Journal

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    Didn't Kyle Brady play for the Jags before coming to the Pats?
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    Jets then Jags
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    Did not know that. Thanks for the info.
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    No problem ...BTW Kyle was a PSU grad drafted in 1995 in round one and turned out to be a bust or at least close to one considering where he was selected by the Jets

    A lot of people don't know that Kyle had actually walked out on the Patriots during a midseason practice in 2007 with disagreements between himself and BB and the way they were using him,but the coaching staff got Kyle to stay..this was a hush-hush thing the Pats did not want anyone to grab ahold of,especially with that spygate crap already in full bloom at that time.
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    i feel like Watson will always be subpar blocking against above average opponents, and I feel that Baker's pass catching abilities could diminish Watson's role (and value) on the team. not sayin' he's a cut (especially with whatever dead cap space), but...
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    When people ask you what has been the one biggest and best play Ben Watson has shown in his NFL career and you answer running down Champ Bailey to save a TD in the AFC divisional game in 2005 then you know you have an underachieving TE

    Given time to show his ability and more on the field,I truly believe that Dave Thomas could be a better TE than Watson.
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    Baker is a lock not only because he's the best blocking TE on the roster (and agruably the entire AFC East Division) and we need to protect Mr.Brady, but also because the Pats just signed him to a multiyear deal that included a nice size signing bonus and the Pats would lose cap room by releasing or trading him. That would be stupid.

    I vote Thomas as the odd man out, although it would be a difficult cut. Maybe BB will keep 4 TEs? Maybe an injury will take care of fate?
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    i think the majority of those on the board are more optimistic than us (of Watson's abilities)
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    A little more trivia from that draft:

    Reportedly Belichick was all set to draft Kyle Brady with the 10th pick in the first round of the NFL draft but the Jets took Brady with the #9 pick. The Browns traded the pick away after that and the 49ers used it on WR JJ Stokes.

    The #8 pick, taken just before Brady, was WR Joey Galloway. And two selections before that the Rams chose DE Kevin Carter, who was just in Foxboro for a visit. The Pats took Ty Law with the #24 pick their pick. That was the same draft that Tampa Bay got both Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks in the first round.
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    I don't overrate Watson, but Brady likes to use him as a receiver. As long as Brady is around I would expect Benjamin Watson will have a roster spot.

    Like the rest I think we will have 4, them being Watson, Thomas, Baker and Smith. We need big athletic guys for Special teams now too with the change in the wedge rule. DeVree might even make it, I don't see BJGE making it this year. The acquisition of Taylor makes it very unlikely that he will be here.

    We all know that BB loves players who can play more than one position as it saves roster spots. I have a feeling that it will be either O'Connell or Hoyer but not both with Edelman being a lock imo.
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    One of the reasons that will likely have the Pats keep more TE's than usual is the new wedge rules on ST.
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