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    Poll: Muslims, atheists most likely to reject violence | The Raw Story

    New data from polling firm Gallup shows that out of all the religious groups in the U.S., Muslims are most likely to reject violence, followed by the non-religious atheists and agnostics.

    Through interviews with 2,482 Americans, Gallup found that 78 percent of Muslims believe violence which kills civilians is never justified, whereas just 38 percent of Protestant Christians and 39 percent of Catholics agreed with that sentiment. Fifty-six percent of atheists answered similarly.

    When Gallup put the question a bit more pointedly, asking if it would be justified for "an individual person or a small group of persons to target and kill civilians," the responses were a bit more uniform. Respondents from nearly all groups were widely opposed to such tactics, with Protestants and Catholics at 71 percent against. Muslims still had the highest number opposed, at 89 percent. Seventy-six percent of atheists were also opposed.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    Good to hear. Would like to know what the actual question was...

    It would be better to post something from Gallup rather than "Raw Story"...given all the bashing of secondary sources that goes on in this place.
     
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    The reports says they interviewed about 1500 Muslims in 2010-11 or 4000 in 2008-2011. (The link, a pdf file, is in the article.) I think Gallup is seen as a pretty fair-minded organization, without too much of a built-in bias.

    2010-2011 Gallup Nightly Poll
    Religion, Number of Interviews
    Protestant 158,109
    Catholic 102,396
    Jewish 10,449
    Muslim 1,492
    Mormon 8,002
    No Religion/Atheist/Agnostic 56,440

    2008-2011 Gallup Nightly Poll
    Religion, Number of Interviews
    Protestant 408,438
    Catholic 271,017
    Jewish 28,314
    Muslim 3,883
    Mormon 19,248
    No Religion/Atheist/Agnostic 137,364
     
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    #75 Jersey

    The actual question was:

    http://www.abudhabigallupcenter.com/File/148778/MAR_Report_ADGC_Bilingual_072011_sa_LR_web.pdf

    The question remains: what is a "civilian"? Technically OBL was a "civilian" (not being part of an organized military). The lower scores for some groups might reflect that dynamic.
     
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    #95 Jersey

    Your first post was
    "Through interviews with 2,482 Americans" I never accused them of bias, I simply asked if the sample size was large enough to draw conclusions.

    I deleted my original posting when I realized that they did use a disproportionate number but large enough (400+) of Muslims relative to the other religions. Here's the link to the actual Gallup poll..
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/148763/Muslim-Americans-No-Justification-Violence.aspx
     
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    That's a good point; the scores also might reflect what's going on in the Middle East, where the governments are using the military to kill civilians. That said, it's nonetheless interesting where atheists and agnostics stand, given that their opinion is probably not distorted by such events. As an atheist myself, my feeling is that atheists and agnostics believe they have only one shot at life, and thus place a higher value on life.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    This explains the discrepancy. There were two different surveys.

    I wonder if people from the "non-denominational" churches would self-identify as Protestant...

    The people who chose "Another Religion" are left out of the charts in that survey, so we do not have a complete picture here. I would like to see the numbers for the Buddhist and Hindu communities.
     
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    But the polls were done in March 2010 and October 2010, before the violence in Tunisia, Egypt, Syria etc...
     
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    Wonder what would happen if the muslim respondents were asked if infiedels or dhimmi's were civilians...... ;)

    It is possible that due to their religion their definition of civilian that what westeners would define as civilian. Muslims were fine with OBL killing non believers his favorability ratings went down when Al Queda started killing muslims.
     
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    Rawstory ... fair and balanced as they get... :bricks::bricks::bricks:
     
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    Do you have a evidence what you're saying is true, especially of American Muslims?

    The only thing I can find is this, which doesn't appear to support you claim for even countries where we are quite unpopular.

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