Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by mcgraw_wv, Mar 5, 2010.
Now you know, it happens on both sides, and it happens often...
Glad we cleared that up.
Right, we know that - the difference is obama was supposed to be different. It turns out he isn't.
Nigerian Yellow Cake
Again, obama was supposed to be different. However you can look for quotes from other countries in addition to Clinton, Gore, etc, and find that the Bushies were not the only ones who thought Iraq had WMD. Bush was wrong; that doesn't mean he intentionally lied.
snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes
Karl Rove Book Exposes Lies of the Bush White House -- Politics Daily
And Valerie has no agenda, does she ? Talk about useless sources.
The Enduring Lies of Ronald Reagan -- In These Times
List of Lies | Barack Obama Lies
Liar, Liar, obama on Fire.
The title is politicians lie..
And somehow there were folks who deified him and did not see it coming.. poor naive folks they are...
Bush SR, and Jr. said they were going to end the Federal Department of Education during their campaigns.... ???
Obama has not directly, and willingly lied while in office, true he has not kept his campaign promises, but were all old enough here to understand that campaign promises aren't worth !@#!.
I don't care for any of the top leadership in either party, I hoped that Obama would shake up the status quo, he hasn't and wont.
I think the GOP and DEM leadership and organizations are falling before our eyes, and the people are sick of them.
But I can't sit here and read post after post on how bad Obama is, when in fact he has done nothing that compares to entangling us in 2 conflicts ( can't call them wars becuase congress hasn't declared war ) and the shattered economy.
Obama hasn't "saved the day" but he hasn't done anything to truely wreck this country like the previous administration did.
So far, Obama is just standard run of the mill president who liek everyone before, simply plays the game of president and doesn't change anything on how it works, or fixinf the fact that it is broken.
The point is that obama is just another politician, he was supposed to be different. And he's exactly the same; the only difference is that he convinced people he wasn't and those people were foolish enough to vote for him.
LMAO. You believe that ? My goodness. I will admit he has never lied while his mouth has been closed.
So what....do you think Nixon and Reagan and Bush and Clinton and anyone else who's ever run for public office didn't convince people they weren't lying?
Do you think each person who runs for office doesn't run on the premise that he is offering something "different?" That he is giving people a reason to "hope?" That he is going to "change" things?
How the hell would any of them gotten elected if they had not relied on people being sick and tired of what had gone before them and were looking for a change -either promised or implied?
Do you think McCain and Palin did not also run on platform based on their "maverickness?" What on earth would a "maverick" be if not something different - if not a "change" of pace from the status quo?
Are not the Tea Party people basing their claim to fame on offering something "new" and "different" from the same-old same-old Washington politics?
Do you believe them? Do you honestly believe that if, given the chance and winning an election, that they, too, will not turn out to be a disappointment? That half of what they've said and all of what they've promised would be lies lies and more lies and that which is not a lie would be voted down by the "other side" anyhow, thus making real "change" impossible?
He hasn't accomplished one thing yet, he hasn't done anything, he hasn't done anything to Lie about yet...
There is nothing I can think of ( granted I'm much busier these days and don't watch Political News as much as I used too ) that I can point to and say Look at this huge lie that has wrecked the country!
That will come when we realize his lies about obamacare being deficit neutral come about. You changed the playing field, you said he hasn't lied; I disagree. Now, to say he hasn't told a huge lie that has wrecked the country, I can agree with that - for now.
I'm just saying obama is a lying sack of sh!t like the rest of them. That is all.
And so far his status quo Politican stats are nothing to get all excited about. his actions ( lying ) is nothing different than any other president trying to "sell the people" on his platform.
"The War will be financed with Oil Profits" ??? Ring a bell?
All top politicians master the art of the sales pitch, which always includes exaggerations.
It's not a flat out lie like "Saddam Hussien was behind 911"
There is a MAJOR level of difference between the two lies. One is someoen trying to sell you on something by hiding some truths, and exaggerating others.
while the other one looked you right in the face, and willing distrupted millions of Americans lives, destroyed the economy, killed millions of civilians in Iraq, and bogged this country down in a "100 year war" that will probably never end.
Bush Sr "Read my Lips, No New Taxes!"
Clinton "I did not have sexual relations"
The list goes on and on... Every president lies a little to protect certain things about their adminstration. I've accepted that, so I can't sit here and scream at Obama's little hidden truths when it's what we Americans have been rewarding for over 200 years.
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