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  1. Patters

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    Anything political that doesn't warrant a thread of its own, that you want to share but don't really believe (or don't want to discuss at length), can go in this thread. Of course, if you think that a rumor, even with a bad source, is true, you can post it below, but there are some rumors (McCain's alzheimer's and Obama's citizenship among them) that probably not even the poster particularly believes.
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    Can I start with a possibly stupid question about the Obama citizenship thing? OK, so he was born in Hawaii to a US citizen, so that qualifies him, but what about his time in Indonesia? If he became a citizen there, and they don't allow dual citizenship, would he have had to give up his US citizenship, and would that affect his eligibility? I'm sure the answer is no, that he is still fine, but I wanted to try and get an explanation on that point (what happens if you give up citizenship, or your parents give it up for you?) without adding to the already ridiculous threads out there.
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    #87 Jersey

    Several blogs are saying that Cindy McCain has no real birth certificate ... it's a fake. She just suddenly appeared in Roswell?

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    I am more than ready to believe anything regarding the 2nd Ms. McCain..
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    Seriously ... if there were aliens light years ahead of our intelligence ... it all is very possible they could be among us. :eek::eek::eek:
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    Isn't this a little creepy:

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    I believe this story

    This was posted in a liberal blog by a friend of the letter writer. I've always thought McCain was more dangerous than Bush, so I believe this letter is quite plausible:

    > MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN
    >
    > It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential
    > nomination in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island
    > in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including
    > Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).
    >
    > It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close
    > quarters with John McCain for almost a week since Turtle Island has a
    > small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all
    > vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other
    > intimately.
    >
    > He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a
    > pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out
    > of them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was
    > "if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this
    > yet?" I soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on
    > vacation to be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then
    > became a regular part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the
    > vacationers initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful
    > holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings
    > continued day after day.
    >
    > Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime
    > entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine
    > women had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just
    > couldn't meet up to this standard. He also made it a point that all
    > of us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too
    > high and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the
    > honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should eat less as she
    > needed to lose weight.
    >
    > McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that
    > David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other
    > side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting
    > with and touching her.
    >
    > Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego, and his rude
    > behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have
    > some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
    > Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day and his response was
    > shocking –"Oh, that was Cindy's idea – I didn't have
    > anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without
    > even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel
    > this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it
    > wasn't my idea at all."
    >
    > I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he
    > engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic
    > of the active US bombing of Iraq at that time. I was shocked when he
    > said "if I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a
    > lesson". Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of
    > war I had expected a more balanced point of view. I commented on the
    > tragic consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII –
    > but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that if it was
    > up to him he would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on Japan. I
    > rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that
    > his experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have mellowed
    > out his perspective but rather had made him more aggressive, and
    > vengeful towards the world.
    >
    > My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving
    > Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain
    > arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because
    > she needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at this abusive
    > comment. I felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to
    > McCain and told him to leave her alone. He became very angry and
    > abusive towards me, and said "don't you know who I am" and I
    > looked him in the face and said "yes, you are the biggest ******* I
    > have ever met" and headed back to my cabin. I am happy to say that
    > later that day when I arrived at lunch I was given a standing ovation
    > by all the guests for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
    >
    > Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this
    > is the first time I am making this public. I almost did so in 2000,
    > when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination but
    > it soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate
    > and so I did not act then. However, now that there is a very real
    > possibility that McCain could be elected as our next president, I
    > feel it is my duty as an American citizen to share this story. I
    > can't imagine a more scary outcome for America than that this
    > abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation. I have observed him
    > in intimate surroundings as he really is, not how the media portrays
    > him to be. If his attitudes toward women, and his treatment of his
    > own family are even a small indicator of his real personality, then I
    > shudder to think what will happen to America were he to be elected as
    > our President.
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    Re: I believe this story

    :rofl: ... oh yeah ... pre-2000 but they were discussing the active bombing of Iraq ... Patters you are losing it. :rofl:
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    Re: I believe this story

    I believe Clinton missed and bombed an Aspirin factory in the Sudan.
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    Re: I believe this story

    Hope they gave you permission to copy and paste that here.
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    Re: I believe this story


    My Holiday with McCain | Telling Thoughts

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    #87 Jersey

    Jay Leno:

    Sarah Palin was asked what she would do as VP in a bear market.

    she said she would shoot and skin it of course.
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    Leno has turned into Jon Stewart. 15 Palin McCain jokes in a row and not a single Obama joke in his entire monologue. I've come to expect that from Letterman but, Jay use to be reasonably unbiased. I guess since he's leaving he doesn't care.
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    I heard Jimmy Carter and all his supporters were pedophiles.


    Is that true?
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    Naa, they just hate Jews.
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    Oh, well that's okay then. As long as it's only Jews.


    :rolleyes:
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    Funny. I heard the same thing about half of Obama's supporters. The other half have Che Guevara's face tattooed on their tush's. Rumor has it he used to say, "sit on my face" a lot, but this is ridiculous!

    Is THAT true??


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    (FYI, the Sun is a conservative New York City newspaper that competes with the Village Voice.)

    Palin: 'Only Flag in My Office' Is Israeli - September 26, 2008 - The New York Sun

    "I wanted to meet you for many years," Ms. Palin told Mr. Peres, according to an aide to the president. "The only flag at my office is an Israeli flag," she was quoted as saying, "and I want you to know and I want Israelis to know that I am a friend."

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    ObiMcCain has taught her well.

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