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    ThinkProgress Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ?1 Down And 534 To Go’

    He also appears to be a fan of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), re-tweeting a positive message about him in May: “Lefties: Before you start fringe-baiting Rand Paul, note that he’s better on civil liberties than most Democratic senators. And Obama.” He seems to dislike liberals, writing, “You so-called liberals make me laugh – you’re all for free speech until someone disagrees, then it’s ‘report him!’” He also accuses the Daily Kos of “Stalinism.”


    wow....
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    I'm usually wary whenever I see something like this, but in this case, he's really toed the line with his remarks, which could be construed as an incitement to violence.

    I have no idea about Massachusetts gun laws, outside of their extreme nature, so I can't comment on that. This does smack a little of reactionary measures when it's too late. Had someone done this with a legit nutcase like Loughner, we wouldn't be talking about any of this. IOW, right idea, but probably wrong application.
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    Can we find a way to blame this on Palin or one of her kids?
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    More on this from USA Today... anarcho capitalist is an interesting term..

    Guns seized after Mass. man suggests targeting politicians -

    The blogs that support him..

    Borepatch: We are TJIC

    Very interesting links to some extremist sites...

    From the Think Progress Article a twitter he sent to rep[orter Leslie Corcoran.. pretty scary stuff.

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    Pretty nasty stuff. Based on the comment 1 down 534 to go he doesn't sound like that big a fan on Ron Paul who would be 1 of the 534. It is always interesting how those on the left are looking for any excuse to punish people who use the 1st amendment in ways they don't like we can only imagine the outrage if people who wished death or assassination for Cheney and or Bush were harassed and had their business shut down for expressing their views.
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    Your post sounds contradictory at best.. you claim he is pretty nasty, but somehow in the warped mind of the right, you justify it as a first amendment right and then somehow link it to Sir Richard of Haliburton.

    The threat of violence on anyone is wrong.. no matter how you frame it.
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    I am not justifying anything the guy says. Nasty people have first amendment rights too. Something the left ignores when it suits their agenda de jour.
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    Yes you are.. read your posts, instead of just condemning what he says you try to frame it into something else and somehow it becomes justified because of what someone else might do or might have said.. he is a self proclaimed "capito-anarchist"... interesting way for him to describe himself.

    The right so loves the constitution, particularly when it fits their agenda, when it does not it is just a "goddam piece of paper".. no one is denying his rights, just a commentary on the threat of violence on our elected officials.. which is blatantly against the constitution, as it provides a remedy if there is dissatisfaction with their performance..
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    America with all of it's "freedom" especially the slobbering freedom and coddling for anything and everything that goes against Patriotism, Law And Order, Decent Education, Morality, Family, Traditional Marriage, Mother And Apple Pie, the war waged by the far left wing against America Of Yesterday is turning America into another Third World Sh!t Hole and in The Third World they KILL their politicians.

    Tom Sawyer, Becky Thatcher & Huckleberry Finn would never know the old place...


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    Harry's got a crush!
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    Is it as interesting as how "those on the right" (to paraphrase your words re the left) are looking for any excuse to punish people who use the 1st amendment they don't like?
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    Just when I start to forget her Mush Mouth Matthews and all the rest of the Liberal Loon Media go into another three week rant about her, after their foot in their mouth crap with the Arizona Shooter they will lay low for awhile but they will be back they can't let go of her, I'm getting a little tired of her myself I wish the Obama Media would just let her fade away, but they won't, if her Snow Machine runs out of gas it will be Front Page News for weeks over at NBC.


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    LOL. Who's the coward who gave this one star?
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    Examples of this?
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    -- any "decency" / obsenity laws
    -- the "ground zero" mosque and other attempts to prevent Muslims from building mosques in communities around the nation
    -- attempts to ban flag burning
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    america is so fn broken lol
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    So you are ok with chiild porn.....? Do you really mean any?


    There are already numerous mosques in lower Manhatten. All sorts of religions are bound by zoning laws. When has a muslim been prevented from practicing their religion?

    I can't burn leaves in the fall, wake me up when someone has their business license taken away for burning a flag.
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    I'm not saying I agree with this individuals views. But all I've seen so far are the two "tweets". (I've not cared to dig further yet) Although "distasteful" I don't see them as any different than other varying passionate opinions that I see every day on boards like this. If exercising one right means losing another, without due process, then I think there's a problem.

    But I'm quietly waiting for all of the facts to come to light. Hopefully they will. Because this may seem like "just some guy" who got his LTC yanked. But I don't think that a lot of you know the hardship put on this guy if this was just a CYA move in light of the AZ shootings.

    My gut tells me that this guy was on the Chief's radar. Otherwise, are they monitoring everyone on in town with an LTC? Do people with them have to live by different rules of free speech?
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    should definitely throw up a red flag when a person with an amassed arsenal condones such a thing, yes

    frankly, i'm all for arresting people who lack common sense enough and yell fire in a croweded theater, yes
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    11 guns is not an "amassed arsenal". I would think that if you had any exposure with the shooting sports, you'd know that it is quite common for a gun owner to own several firearms. One "does not fit all" uses. Some even collect them for their value.

    No one yelled fire in a theatre. As I said, I have only seen the two tweets which expressed an opinion. Not a call to action. I am not here to defend this individual. Just to voice my concern over the possibility of one right being snuffed without due process because of another being used.

    Pitiful that now someone's "beliefs" are now ok to justify stripping their 2A rights. Here come the "thought police". Seems that guns owners have been demonized so successfully, that it's OK that such things happen to them.
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    i'm all for rounding up people , be it shooting sport afficianados or not, who have that many guns, and are that retarded

    therefore i'm all for a "this retarded ******* lacks common sense" police force
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    Stop changing your argument. You wanted examples.

    if you care to continue this discussion, decide what it is you want to discuss. Do you want to talk about whether attempts by various parties, political groups, etc. to restrict other people's freedoms are justifiable? It certainly seems that's where you want to shift the conversation.

    However, that's not what I was referring to. You tried to pretend that the left does something bad and that the right doesn't. Clearly that's not the case. You just happen to be OK with the right's attempts. (shocking!)

    So make up your mind, and then we can continue.
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    You missed the third post of this thread.. it is a lot more than a couple of tweets...

    Seems that the protections of free speech move into the legal realm when there are active threats against anyone... unfortunately this will play as a violation of the 1st and 2nd amendment, but from what we know now it is closer to criminal than amendment violations..

    IMO the police have no choice, if they are made aware of threats and do nothing, and then something happens then they become liable, they cannot overlook or minimize these threats.
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    Since the Tuscon shooting there is a Rush to protect "the politicians" which is good, now How About The Innocent Children And Little Old Ladys that get shot and killed by the Gang Banger Savages stray bullets because the stupid bastards can't shoot straight, it's one thing when these animals shoot each other but when they kill the little kids it's time we give those kids just as much thought as we do with the politicians.

    They took those guns away from the guy in Arlington now how about going after The Crips & Bloods Guns.


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    The simple answer is that blacks killing blacks, or spanish killing spanish or poor folks killing poor folks, is less important than white radical extremists plotting and planning on killing congressmen and women.. kind of like triage. Some say that the former is functional....

    capiche????
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    OK, why do they kill each other----whats the excuse for that?
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    To me it raises an interesting question. At what point does it become lawful to take away someone's gun license for what they say/write? This guy is obviously a turd, but if he's never acted on any of the diarrhea he's written is there a justification to revoke his license and seize his property? If the weapons are all registered I'm not sure its appropriate to take his property and revoke his license without due process, even temporarily. Aren't we supposed to be protected to say what we want without having to worry about the government taking what's ours without any kind of trial?
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    Turn this around.. if the police become aware of a threat that after investigation is found to be credible and they do not act, then they become liable.... not to act in this situation, is sometimes worse than the subsequent actions..

    There has to be some type of decision making matrix out there that would indicate that if certain factors are present, then this is the most appropriate course of action.. not too many Police Chiefs would just do this without some type of evidence based backup.

    I do agree with the due process though, and if not then this needs remediation...
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