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    #75 Jersey

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/308723.html

    Luckily nobody that racist actually exists (unless Obama's minister counts), it was just a group of UCLA conservative students who are trying to point out that Planned Parenthood, makes most of its 902 million dollar revenue off minorities.


    On the recording provided by The Advocate, an actor portraying a donor said he wanted his money used to eliminate black unborn children because "the less black kids out there the better."

    Kersey laughed nervously and said: "Understandable, understandable. ... Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited and want to make sure I don't leave anything out."
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    So some neocon punks pull a dirty underhanded trick and you support it 100%

    Why am I not surprised?

    Here's an idea try some honest, non-sleazy advocacy and you might just sleep better at night.
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    I sleep just fine ever night.

    I wonder how well the Planned Parethood doctor's sleep?
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    Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist who advocated abortion and sterilazation for balck people.
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    Here's the entire conversation, it doesn't sound like she was duped...

    WHAT WAS SAID
    Autumn Kersey of Planned Parenthood in Boise: Good afternoon, this is Autumn.

    Donor: Hello, Autumn, I'm interested in making a donation today.

    Kersey: Fantastic!

    Donor: What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups?

    Kersey: Oh, absolutely. We have, um, in fact, uh wonderful, fantastic news. We just received a very generous donation to our women in need fund.

    Donor: Wonderful. I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group - would that be possible?

    Kersey: Absolutely.

    Donor: Like the black community for example?

    Kersey: Certainly.

    Donor: OK, so the abortionI can give money specifically for a black baby, that would be the purpose.

    Kersey: Absolutely. If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help (an) African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically for that purpose.

    Donor: Great. Because I really face trouble with affirmative action, and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged, you know, against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name, you know.

    Kersey: Mmhmm, absolutely.

    Donor: So that's definitely possible.

    Kersey: Oh, always, always.

    Donor: So I just wanna - can I put this in the name of my son?

    Kersey: Absolutely.

    Donor: Yeah, he's trying to get into colleges, and he's going to be applying, you know, he's justwe're just really bighe's really faced troubles with affirmative action.

    Kersey: Mmhmm.

    Donor: And we don't, you know, we just think, you know, the less black kids out there the better.

    Kersey: (Laughs) Understandable, understandable. ... Um David, let me, if I may, just get some sort of specific general information so we can set this up the right way. You said you wanted to put it in your son's name, and you would like this designated specifically to assist (an) African-American woman who's looking to terminate a pregnancy.

    Donor: Exactly, and yeah, I wanna protect my son, so he can get into college.

    Kersey: All right. Excuse my hesitation, um, um, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited, and I wanna make sure I don't leave anything out.

    Transcript released by The Advocate
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    Screaming Nutty Howard Dean and his Dingobat Gang are sh!tting their pants, they see the Republicans winning again all because of their far left wing diversity socialist do-gooding crap, their pandering and slobbering a$s kissing to the Black Community and to the Feminist Screwballs is going to cost them another election, you would have thought they would have learned about running these flaming liberal jerks from their experiance of having a "Moron" beat the sh!t out of them twice with the other two babbling fools Gore/Kerry.

    Didn't the moonbats realize the minute they ran a Black Man and a White Women that they would start a "Race War" right in their own party while the republicans just sit back and laugh at the looney bastards.

    :bricks:
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    Wait...isn't it the seriousness of the charge?

    I mean, shouldn't you at least spend a few words pretending to be outraged that the guy didn't just say "that's flucking disgusting. Keep your damn money you cow" and slam down the phone?

    Wouldn't that make more sense than attacking FTW for posting it?
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    No it wouldn't. The operators at Planned Parenthood aren't supposed to make policy. You know, just like every other organization of any size at all. You say you were a house painter at one point. What was your company's policy regarding beyotchy, unreasonable customers? Were you allowed to cuss them out if the got out of line? Or were you expected to keep you mouth shut and let the boss handle it? The people who answer Planned Parenthood's phones are supposed to collect the info and let the bosses make policy. Anyone with any common sense knows this. FTW knows it, he's just on a power trip this weekend because the other moderator is absent.

    It was a filthy, garbage thing to do and anyone who agrees with it is either a fool or purveyor of filth and garbage.
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    I like how you assume I wasn't the boss. You know what they say about assuming, right?
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    BTW--apparently Planned Parenthood doesn't agree with you:

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    Yeah, I also know what they say about liars. Either you learned the job as something other than the boss, or you went out and bought yourself a paintbrush and labeled yourself an expert, which makes you a thief and vandal in my book. Forgive me for assuming you weren't a thief or a vandal.

    Did you miss the part where I talked about how every organization in the history of organizations asks the lower level employees to not make policy or are you just studiously ignoring it?
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    No, I wasn't ignoring it, thanks for asking.


    Thief and vandal?

    LOL.

    Whatever, dude.
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    Says something about the strength of the arguments...or rather the lack of rational arguments that support the "right to life" position when their supporters have to resort to such tactics to try to embarrass an organization.


    I imagine they sleep quite well as they allow women to terminate unwanted pregnancies. In so doing, they save society millions of dollars in social services and prison funding, not to mention the thousands of deaths averted. Heck, those poor college students murdered in Alabama and N. Carolina would be alive today if the parents of the murderers had done the right thing and had abortions. One would think someone really outraged at their deaths as you claimed to be would be in support of a procedure that results in fewer criminals, less poverty, fewer abused children. However, as is obvious to any occasional visitor to this board, people like you simply use such deaths as a basis for your racist propaganda. I guess that's why you're so depressed by the thought of black women terminating unwanted pregnancies. After all, the more black women who terminate unwanted pregnancies (i.e. those who are poor, young and unmarried), then the greater likelihood of a reduction of black criminals and black poverty. Then, what would people like you have to point at when you promote your propaganda that blacks are inherently criminal and stupid? :rolleyes:


    Yet another lie from a rightwinger. Do you have any experience with the truth or is it completely alien to you?


    Firstly, professionals don't speak to other people like that, regardless of how "disgusting" the other person, particularly when one is representing an organization. Or perhaps I should say, nonrightwinger professionals, considering the behaviour of the rightwingers on this board. Secondly, please explain why Planned Parenthood shouldn't accept contributions from a known racist? Those contributions allow Planned Parenthood to provide a vital service to many young women. Aside from the negative PR generated by people who would rather cut off their nose to spite their face, there is no practical or ethical reason for Planned Parenthood to not accept contributions from a known racist.


    Hopefully, that's just PR speak and I suspect it is since I doubt that Planned Parenthood asks donors to note whether or not they are racists. :rolleyes:
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    I'm glad it doesn't bother you. May I ask: are you one of the lefties (since you started the label game) who has fits about Republican presidents and causes who preach abstinence rather than condom/abortion? I ask because I have a few lib type friends who'll b!tch and moan for hours about things like that.
    Just curious.

    And I'm really glad you have a direct line into the inner workings of PP. It's good you can tell us exactly what they meant and didn't mean by what they say.
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    You may be glad or sad - it's irrelevant since I never asked you what you thought about the fact that I don't care that Planned Parenthood would accept donations from a known racist. I did ask you to explain/provide a rational reason for why Planned Parenthood shouldn't accept donations from a known racist since such donations allow Planned Parenthood to provide vital services. Let me know when you're ready to stop deflecting and answer the question. :rolleyes:


    Reading comprehension skills must be a disqualifier to be a rightwinger. The word 'hopefully' denotes an opinion, not a claim to "know the inner workings of PP". :rolleyes: The word 'suspect' is an indication that an opinion is being presented and not a claim to know what PP "meant to say". :rolleyes:

    Now that I've corrected your stupidity - do share whatever evidence you have that my opinion that Planned Parenthood statement is for PR purposes only is incorrect. For example, do you know that Planned Parenthood asks donors to declare whether they are racists? Is Planned Parenthood not trying to avoid bad publicity and thus motivated to make some sort of concilliatory statement?

    I doubt you will find the answers in your "talking points for sheep" guidebook but feel free to take all the time you need to look.


    Lastly, why would I care whether Republican Presidents "preach abstinence"? I'm not anti-abstinence, I'm pro-choice.
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    Ms Sanger and the KKK talk:
    http://thesilverlakeconspiracy.blogspot.com/

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    Planned Parenthood deified Margaret Sanger, who was a big fan of aborting the handicapped, blacks, Jews and Asians. She openly professed her admiration of Adoplph Hitler.

    That is Planned Parenthood's shameful history. Those are the facts and they are not in dispute. That's why a comment like this should come as a surprise to absolutely no one.
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    The funny part of all this (or the saddest, I'm not sure which) is that I'm pro-choice as well. So you've just spent all this time accusing me of being a rightwinger and calling me stupid, but the reality is I share your view. I just find racism and the tolerance thereof appalling, no matter what, and had I taken the call I would've told the person on the other end to take her money and shove it so far up her bottom an ear nose and throat man would've been needed to remove it.

    I'm not sure why you're defending racism and racists, but as you like it.

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