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  1. DarrylS

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    came across these pix this AM, pretty sick, one thing I could never understand is how this organization is allowed to exist blatantly, someone has to fund them as they travel all over the US and no one has ever prosecuted them as some type of organized hate group. The Southern Poverty Leadership Center was effective in suing the Nazi orgs. in Idaho, but there seems to be a lot of verbage, but little legal action against this group and its leader Fred Phelps. Feel bad for the kids to be used this way.

    http://www.godhatesfags.com/photos/2006/20060716_shirts.html
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    God hates fags - it's true. God also hates everyone else in the world, especially those in the middle east and Africa, not to mention children born with birth defects and those who get hit by cars and wide receivers who drop the ball in the endzone. Fags are no different from anyone else.
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    no you forgot, God loves babies with birth defects because he hates abortion. Or do you mean after they grow up?
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    The whole group is one guy (Fred Phelps) and his extended family, they get way more attention than they deserve.
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    Whista is right, God HATES the world, just look around, if there really is a guy named "God" he must be related to Count Dracula.
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    Fred Phelps stands proudly next to Cindy Sheehan, Patters, mikey & NEM all opposed to the mission in Iraq.
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    And he stands with George W. Bush, you and the rest of the GOP on how he feels about gays. What's your point? If he likes ice cream does that mean I shouldn't?
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    I assure you that not all of us Christians are like that. The Bible preaches acceptance, and love for all, obviously these morons decided to skip that part. Although I am against homosexuality, I would never ever take it to the level they have taken it to, and I'm sure most Christians would agree. I apologize for them, and I hope they learn that what they're doing is wrong.
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    #15 Jersey

    I think everyone, even atheists, would agree that one of the first lessons of being a christian is not to hate. Then you see a supposedly christian group whose slogan starts with "God hates". Anyone with a lick of sense knows these type of groups are wrong and quite disturbed. What I don't see are the Pat Robertsons's and Jerry Farewell's attacking these morons. Evidently, they approve, either there with us or their against us.
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    Sure and when did you hear anyone that you mentioned say they "hate" gays?
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    Your sentence makes so little gramatical sense that I actually don't know what you're asking me.
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    Pujo, out of those names you mentioned, when did you hear any of them say they "hate" gays?


    Better?
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    Didn't you hear???

    God is a Republican.

    According to George Bush, it was God who told him to invade Iraq.

    To kill those baby muslims.

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    Actions speak louder than words, Bush pushing a constitutional amendment that would not only ban gay marriage but also even civil unions (which would prevent two people from entering into a personal contract to share property) is enough for me.
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    They all do that, Jimmy Sissy Carter talkeed to God and Jesus all through his presidencey, Hillary went up on the roof of the White House and talked to Eleanor Roosevelt, Billy Blue Dress had "Phone Sex".

    Jimmy Sissy Carter saw a Flying Saucer, his mother said he used to sit out in the Carter Peanut Field for hours talking to someone or something :singing:

    Al Gore looks in the mirror and says "Hello Mr President" :rocker:
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    And I agree with him, does that mean I hate gays? No. I have quite a few gay friends. Bush is simply trying to install morales into today's society, but this raises the question of is homosexuality destroying marriage etc., and I don't feel like getting into that. :bricks:

    Again, it's all how you look at the subject, but if you are a Christian, there is only one way to view this.
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    Yes, I would 100% say that if you oppose civil unions (I understand, though disagree with, everyone's hesitation of letting it be called "marriage") you hate gays (or at least hate the concept of them being equals). It's like people who opposed civil rights but claimed "I don't hate blacks, I just don't think they should be allowed to vote".
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    You must be talking about Jesus' second of the two great commandments of his teachings, "Do unto others as you have them do unto you."
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    Yep, exactly, they don't buy that reasoning...Just like they didn't equate segragration and desgragration as an imorral issue, to them it was a safety issue for their white kids. How dare the gov't force intergration of public schools...History is a funny thing.
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    But you're assuming that marrying a person of the same sex is a right, and I disagree with that, once again it's all a matter of personal beliefs, you compare it to the civil rights struggle, and I think it is nothing like that. Black have the right to be equal, but homosexuals do not have the right to be married. But I base my beliefs on the Bible, so your opinions don't mean a whole lot to me, and vice versa, I'm sure. But once again, I don't hate them, and I do have homosexual friends. The Bible preaches love, and I try my best to love all.
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    #15 Jersey

    First, if your getting in the moral issue, your opening it up to all discussions. Then, you have to ask yourself, is Bush leading us in the right direction concerning morals? Secondly, I take exception to your comment, "if you are a Christian, there is only one way to view this". Does Christianity and morals go hand-in-hand? Are the Farewells and Robertsons Christians? Am I not a good Christian because I ok with homosexuals living together? Maybe I'm reading to much into your comment, maybe you could expand a little.
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    Same argument I heard in the boston public schools in the 70's.....Then the christians pulled their white kids out of public schools and placed then in catholic schools ..It's not hate, were christians, we love everyone, we just do not believe this is right:singing:
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    Of course you're aware that slavery was often justified by passages in the bible that backed up the enslavers.
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    Well, you obviously don't seem like a mean or hateful person, I'd say you're a misguided person (I recognize you'd say the same about me). I was, however, careful to distinguish marriage from a civil union. The text of the proposed amendment includes the clause "or the legal incidents thereof" which could deny gay people the right to designate each other as healthcare proxies, to share common property, to pass their inheritence to their partner after death, or countless other contractual rights that exist today. That is a fundamental violation of someone's rights that goes beyond simple marriage.
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    Since when is it governments job to "install morales" as you say? I thought that was for the parents. Or, would you prefer we rest on government for all of our childrens upbringing? The educational system, after all, is subsidized daycare. Churches have begun to become the same until the Catholic expose became public.
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    I take it that the same people, who use the Bible to justify homosexuality being wrong, will lobby their government to stop all military operations, executions and use of firearms by officials? Is "Thou shalt not kill" not one of the ten commandments?
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    Oh, the inegma , wrapped in a mystery involving a conundrum where the righties are trapped in a strait jacket;)
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    #15 Jersey

    That's kind of what I was thinking when the moral issue was brought up. This administration failed to extend the assault weapon ban. What is so moral about using an Uzi? There are companies in the U.S. who are disposing of chemicals into neighborhoods due to the dilution of laws passed by Bush pertaining to hazardous waste. What value on the moral scale is placed on sick children?
    You know what, I'm not a deeply religious person, but I know right from wrong. I always try to do the right thing. This can not be said of a lot of religious people. For instance, If you Catholic, and are outspoken about gays, you better be walking a fine line.
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    Wow this is going to take a while, ok in order

    Does Christianity and morales go hand in hand? Not necessarily, but the Bible makes it extremely clear that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that God does not condon homosexuality. If you are a Christian then obviously you would feel the same way. That being said, we are all hypocrites (myself included), and I am a strong believer that sin is sin (meaning that all sin is viewed the same through God's eyes).

    **************
    This will explain it better then I ever could.
    http://www.brfwitness.org/Articles/2003v38n1.htm
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    You're right, the government is contradicting itself, and I agree with you. I was referring to my beliefs on the basis of the Bible, no political reasons. But I disagree with this proposition, only because all people should have this right.

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    This will explain it much better then I ever could.
    http://www.pbc.org/library/files/html/rs_war.html
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    My friend,
    I am not religious in any sense of the word. God does not exist in my mind. All I own in the world is my mind. I am not about to go with you into this territory. You sound like a fine human being, and I hope my athiesm does not offend you, but that's not relevant to you or me, right. Devout folks like you don't need to hear my point of view on cosmic matters. We can talk about other things. I'll simply say that whoever wrote that essay was rationalizing his religious book to work with the real world, and that's fine with me. Look forward too more discussion on other things, but this isn't one of them.

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