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  1. cupofjoe1962

    cupofjoe1962 Rookie

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    My wife and I have donated money to the Police & Firefighters in our town for the past few years (or so we thought).

    We usually get one or two call per year and they say they are collecting
    for the "Local - insert home time" police and firefighters.

    My wife would leave a envelope taped to our door with a check made
    out to our town police or fire.

    A couple months ago, our town newspaper printed an article that said
    that the local town and firefighters were not calling people looking for
    donations. They said that the unions were calling and the local police
    and firefighters had nothing to do with the solicitation.

    About a month later I received a call from the same guy looking for money
    for the police department.

    When I asked him if they were calling from the unions, he danced around
    the question and finally admitted that this donation is for the unions.

    I asked him to remove us from his list, because I was not going to donate
    money to people who are going to donate it to the democratic party.

    Today my wife received a call from another man looking for money from
    the fire department. When my wife asked if the money was for the union
    the guy said that the money was for the town fire department. My wife
    said that she would be glad to drop off a check at the town hall so that
    the money goes to the fire department and not to the union.

    The clown on the other end reponded with a four letter word and hung
    up the phone.

    We are on the do not call list.

    If anyone receives the same type of phone call in their own town, they
    should know that the money is going to the unions.


    I would rather flush my money down the toilet than support the democratic party.
  2. wistahpatsfan

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    Good post. We had the same thing happen here a few years ago with the same responses to my questions. These guys have a lot of balls to be doing this now. Fire and police unions don't get enough money? When are the DPW guys calling?

    BTW, if you give money to Republican Party, you're a sucker, too.
  3. cupofjoe1962

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    I may lean real far right, but I am a independent.

    I don't donate to any of the political parties.

    I don't mind helping out my local town or charity, but I draw the
    line at politics.

    The politicians take enough of my money....
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    #75 Jersey

    We get these calls all the time.

    I always ask the person, "Are you a policeman or firefighter?". When they say "no", I then ask "Are you with a 3rd party fundraiser?", when they say "yes" I then ask "OK, what percentage of my donation stays with your company and what percentage goes to the police/firefighters" - - they then tell me the truth - - it's usually 80% stays with the boilerroom corp and maybe 15-20% goes to the cops/firefighters.

    Most of the time, these are private companies making (what should be) an illegal buck.

    I then tell the person on the line (if they haven't already abruptly hung up) that they should have trouble looking at themselves in the mirror everyday.
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    The calls we received they guy identified himself as officer "name".

    We bought it hook, line and sinker for a long time.

    If I didn't see the article in the paper, we would still be donating.
    I have filled in a couple people on our road, who also have now
    stopped donating.
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    everyone......print this out!

    post it by the phone and use the script right back to them!


    Shmessy!....bigggggggggg UPs!
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    Good for you.
    I feel the same way.:(
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    I stopped giving money to any, and all police/fire out of our office. First off, most of the time it's a union BS fund. Second, why should I give my money to people who make $100k, $150k, and even up to $200k a year? The answer, I shouldn't. My money now goes to wounded warrior funds for troops, and childrens charities.
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    The Wounded Warrior Project is a GREAT charity. Good call.

    Wounded Warrior Project - Home
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    The Cops that make those calls are notorious for using foul language if you refuse or if you question them, I used something that seemed to work, I told them "I was dead" when they asked for me by name I said "he's deceased" I don't think they bother checking they just go to the next number, if you tell them to go f-ck themselves they might Kill Your Cat like Clinton did.
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    I almost took a job like that in school. I'm glad now that I didn't; but I must admit it was because I'd have had to wear a tie. Not that I'm against ties per se, but I am against bosses making employees jump through hoops. I understand the importance of a dress code at work. It really does make the customers feel like their dealing with professionals; but in a call center that never had customers walking through it?
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    Try this one:

    Rett Syndrome Research Trust
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    #15 Jersey

    Thanks for the heads up. I always tell everyone I don't do phone solicitations, but have a little guilt when its fire and police calling. Lately, have been getting more calls from regular businesses. I guess the do not call deal has been forgotten. Not to mention, companies that we do business with calling because they have a deal (Direct TV for example) or a 'courtesy call'. I tell them, if you want me to remain a customer, don't call me again.
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    #95 Jersey

    The other line they use is, "This is officer so and so. You're not in trouble we're asking for donations for..........."
    I then ask what department he's with and tell him my wife works for the District Attorney's office and I want to find out if she knows him (she did for 10 years) When they hem and haw I tell him he's impersonating a police officer and that I could have him charged with a crime....He hung up pretty quick....
    I told one guy we donate to the United Way and he asked what that was.......
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    I've gotten these calls too. Never thought about the union aspect of it, but what did gall me was once when the officer inferred that, by having the polce badge sticker in your window for donating, any cops that you "run into would know you support them" (forget the exact wording). At that point, I started to think "don't the taxes I pay already supposed to provide police "protection". Why would the cop need to know that I donated (strictly a rhetorical question)?
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    I just tell them I am broke........pretty efficient way to get out of things
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    Yeah i have donated once way back probably 4 years ago or so, only 10 bucks but i thought it was for a decent cause and the guy on the other end sounded like a police officer so i figured why not. I got the hint when they continued to call me about once a month for these last 4 years, and now i just hang up on them when they call. They don't seem to understand the concept of the word no!

    Thanks for posting this because while i knew something fishy was going on with this group i didn't know this is a union fund going to silver spoon fed worthless politicians, i would rather light the money on fire then give them a penny!
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2009
  18. wistahpatsfan

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    I'm sure the police have no idea this was going on. I eagerly await the "Apology" press conference
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    #75 Jersey

    I've received hundreds of these calls and they've NEVER been from a union.

    I've actually contacted the AG's offices in California, Texas, Florida and Missouri where most of these have come from and found out who these are.

    They are always from some private profit-based telephone solicitation company with no other motive but to make what should be an illegal buck.
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    Some of these folks use a third party, more professional I guess, who get a cut of the action before it is flushed to the actual charity..

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