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  1. Rob0729

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    From the Inquirer:

    Feeley's future hinges on Vick ruling | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/02/2009

    Considering Smith is unlikely to make the final roster, I would definitely make that trade. At least the Pats wouldn't have wasted a fifth round pick that way.
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    Sirius NFL was talking about this an hour ago and they said Smith for Freeley is a good trade but may have to have the Pats hand over a late draft pick as well.

    They also suggested a longshot trade....Lawrence Maroney for Feeley and Philly's 3rd rounder next season - I doubt that will happen,especially if Morris is ailing
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    I don't see Maroney getting traded for any reason especially not to the Eagles. What would the Eagles do with a RB? Even Westbrook needs to make his living as much as a a receiver as a runner to be what he is. Westbrook may be the best all purpose RB ever, but he has only gotten over a 1,000 yards rushing in a season twice. How would Maroney get any touches there.
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    Morris for Feeley and a 3rd I'd consider. . . .

    And, really, don't the Pats have the Eagles' 7th as "change" from the Lewis trade?
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    I thought the idea of Philly acquiring Maroney was a bit bizzarre myself,especially considering that not only do they have the all purpose Westbrook but they drafted a RB high up - The only way I could see Philly taking Maroney is if another team has set up a trade with Philly with the assumption that Maroney is traded to them for a 3 way trade - But that does not seem likely,if fact impossible to happen.
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    Smith for Feeley straight-up would be kind of a steal, since the Pats will probably cut Smith anyway. If they have to send a 7th-rounder along with Smith for Feeley, that's fine by me.

    Watson, on the other hand, they should get Feeley AND a pick.

    With the age and injury history of Morris, Taylor, and Faulk, I doubt they trade Maroney. We can debate whether or not Maroney has a bright future in the league, but I think the Pats probably figure there's too much potential there to give up on at this moment. If he has another injury-filled season or a season of subpar numbers, that's different. (And, as much as I like BJGE, I think he's a good sub and not the every-down pounder.)
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    To go off the topic a bit,I have not seen much of him play but is J.T. O'Sullivan a decent QB? - I know that Watson to the Bengals has been a hot topic as well and wonder if O'Sullivan would be considered as part of a trade there as well.. Unless JT is not so good,I dont know much about him
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    I'd like the Smith trade for the Pats, even with a late rounder thrown in- Feeley is probably worth essentially a 5th and a 7th.

    As for the Maroney trade? I'd love it for Philly, and I'd almost like to see it happen just because Maroney would do phenomenally well with them, but it makes absolutely no sense for the Pats.
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    I wrote after the Eagles scrimmage that Feeley was the best QB on the field that night. I'm not sure I'd want him as my #1 long term, but he's a huge upgrade over Walter and Hoyer. In fact I'd give them Smith and one of our myriad 7ths to make that happen.

    JT OSullivan was also very good, but I think he's the solid #2 in Cinci.

    BTW- If we happen to pick up a QB, I'd still want to go with 2 QBs plus Hoyer on the PS
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    Shady McCoy has been looking pretty good too so far, so I doubt Maroney would be in Philly's plans.

    I think it'd be a steal for us to trade Alex Smith for a viable backup QB, even if they wanted a late rd pick thrown in too.
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    Is this the same AJ Feeley that played for the Dolphins in 2003-2004 season ? I recall watching 3 games to glory and seeing Feeley being badly beaten up by the Patriots defense. There was one funny clip where one of Feeley's Dolphins teammates slapped him on the butt after the play and he jumps as if he's been shot in the back.
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    While Feeley looked really good in that game, bear in mind that he's doing that with several years in the Philly system. Just because he can make the reads and throws required of him there doesn't mean he can make the more complicated reads required in the New England offense. I'm not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade over Walter. Feeley has shown he can perform when called upon. Walter has mostly shown that he can take a hit, get up, and get hit again. I'm just saying, he wouldn't look half as good as he does with Eagles for some time.
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    I hate to say this, but I think Ben Watson is the vulnerable tight end. Maybe Philly would have to add a low-round draft choice in a Feely trade, but they might not be willing to give him up for less.

    As far as I 'm concerned, that trade would be ok. I really like Watson, but he hasn't delivered, let's face it. I feel pretty much the same way about Thomas. But unless Walter and Hoyer are a lot better than they seem, it's pretty clear that we need a proven backup qb.
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    The thing on this deal is that the Patriots cannot wait too long.

    By waiting, they may lose the chance of trading with Cincinnatti

    for a draft pick.
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    The pick that the Pats sent to Tampa for Smith may be "conditional" so something might happen to that 5th rd pick if the Pats cut Smith. That too has to be taken into account when thinking about a Feeley-Smith trade.

    The Iggles are waiting on Godell to come out and say how long Vicks suspension (if any) will last. If he is going to suspended for say the first 6 games, then they will keep Feeley and put Vikc on the Suspended list, and then re-visit how to twaek the roster after week 6. If Godell says the suspension is say 0-2 games, then I think they (Iggles) will go ahead and move Feeley.
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    Feeley is a Patriots killer... he orchestrated that comeback win for the Dolphins in '04 and nearly led the Eagles to victory in '07. I remember thinking the same of Huard: better to have him than to have to face him.
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    Hmm. That'll work for me.

    Or trade Ben Watson to the Redskins for a very young WR. They have a glut. How about Devin Thomas, who had good size and is fast? In a year or two, we may not have many truly capable or game-changing WRs on this team.

    Moss will retire at some point. Welker will continue taking big-time abuse. Who else is there a couple of years from now?
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    That's a great idea! We certainly don't have any WRs on the roster now. And I'm sure the Redskins would give up last year's first rounder for Ben Watson when they already have Chris Cooley. Get a clue!
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    Mike Lombardi did a chat at NFP today and was asked about a TE for Feeley trade with the Pats. His response was the Pats wouldn't take Feeley...
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    Did he expand on why, Mo?
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    Same feeley.......not thrilled with the guy overall.....The only team he has really looked good against .....is US!!! He had one big game against us as I recall........
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    Smith for Feeley would be a steal for the patriots. Every one of us has the team cutting Smith next week. Of course, if there is interest in Smith, let the bidding begin. Personally, I don't think the interest is in Philly or perhaps anywhere.

    My suspicion (as I indicated when we watched Philly play) is that Watson might be the guy to go to Philly. Perhaps we want Feeley, perhaps we want a draft pick.
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    No, but I'd guess it's his track record which some here seem to have lost sight of. He was never terribly talented, he lost his college starting job to Joey Harrington...drafted in the 5th round by the Eagles and they traded him away to Miami where he was abyssmal as a starter. Then after sitting for a year as a backup in SD the Eagles brought him back but he's never been more than a #3. As someone else said, in a system he was developed in. He's thrown for a total of 4000 yards IN HIS CAREER and has 2 more picks than TD's.

    Same can be said for Walter productivity wise but he's closer to prototype (by 2") and he's 4 years younger and has had far less quality coaching and fewer opportunities so he may yet have some upside. He was a projected first rounder if not for a shoulder injury in his last game in college AND WE GOT HIM FOR NOTHING...
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    I dont even think a backup QB is a big deal(cassel was as pedestrian as anyone in the league), but I would give them Watson and Maroney for Feeley. Hell I'd trade those 2 underachievers for Mr. Mcfeely.
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    As long as he's on our team where, subsequently, he doesn't have to play against and torch us, than I'm fine with it. This sounds strange to say, but I don't think I've ever seen a QB consistently torch our defense like A.J. Feeley has everytime he has played us. :eek:
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    Sure we really need ANOTHER WR - Right now we have 3 young WRs in the program - Nunn, Edelman, and BRANDON TATE. Tate is the guy who has the physical skills (when healthy) to be an impact player. We won't see it until next year, but there is NO need to trade an asset for an embarrassment of riches. I want DLmen or LBs, or picks for any trade
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    Easy, cowboy, no speaking for anybody else. Just like not everyone of us was surprised when Cassel wasn't cut, not everyone thinks that Smith will be cut.

    I for one don't think that SMith will be cut. He may or may not be traded, but if he isn't traded, I see him as making the 53.
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    How is it a steal when Feeley is likely to be cut also????



    Trading Watson for Feeley and a Pick isn't enough. And it would be one of the worst trades of the Belichick era. Worse than the acquisition of Starks.
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    This is not a well thought out post by you. Not in the least bit. In fact, its a pretty ignorant one

    1) Devin Thomas is one of their rising stars. They aren't trading him
    2) Ben Watson is on the last year of his contract. So his worth isn't what you think it is.
    3) Ben Watson, even being off the field, is a better player than Alex Smith has shown during his time here. Smith has slowly slid down the TE depth chart...
    4) Brandon Tate wants to know why you are forgetting about him.. So do the rest of the Pats WRs. Particularly Edelman who thinks that you don't have any notion of the type of pounding Welker takes.
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