Welcome to PatsFans.com

PFT - LJ on the block?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by primetime, Apr 22, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. primetime

    primetime Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    5,444
    Likes Received:
    152
    Ratings:
    +558 / 61 / -30

    #18 Jersey

  2. Remix 6

    Remix 6 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    7,780
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

  3. Michigan Dave

    Michigan Dave Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    No interest.
     
  4. PushnPencils

    PushnPencils Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2007
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +8 / 9 / -4

    I'd have to agree with you.

    He's 28 years old I think. Here, he wouldn't need to pound the rock like he did in KC.

    Sharing carries with Maroney would extend his career.

    Something tells me they'd be looking for more than just a first rounder. The 28th and Asante seems like too much though.
     
  5. fgssand

    fgssand PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2004
    Messages:
    4,798
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +57 / 0 / -1

    #17 Jersey

    You might if one gets injured....not often that one back makes it all the way through the season healthy anymore (LJ actually has the past two years).

    If they could work out the contract to be cap friendly, I wouldn't mind seeing LJ here. I have no idea what kind oif money it would take - he is going into his 5th year I believe.
     
  6. belichickaholic

    belichickaholic On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    396
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    I heard a rumor that he is disliked in the locker room.
     
  7. Remix 6

    Remix 6 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    7,780
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    he did..and he wants a new contract..and a guy his caliber its top RB money so forget it
     
  8. patriotspride

    patriotspride Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    Messages:
    4,162
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    plus he doesnt want to be coached by a white man .
     
  9. Boston Jay

    Boston Jay 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2006
    Messages:
    1,685
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    I heard he is a cancer.
     
  10. JoeSixPat

    JoeSixPat Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    9,965
    Likes Received:
    71
    Ratings:
    +178 / 2 / -3

    Knowing that the Chiefs also need an OL, it was intriguing when I first heard he was on the trading block.... 5 yards per carry, 1700 yard season backs do tend to help a team.

    The school of thought of course is that he's being overused and needs to be part of a tandem.

    But from the personality issues (though, he could be another Dillon - a guy who actually is interested in getting a ring who will behave) I think he really wants to get paid more than anything.

    If he were willing to continue playing under his rookie contract that goes through 2009 that would be one thing - but I think he wants out of that contract and would demand an extension from any team trading for him (and such a team indeed might want to extend their options on him too)

    So I think its "show me the money" time with LJ - if he starts saying he just wants to be on a team that can win a SB and is willing to play out his existing contract, give the Patriots a call - otherwise don't pick up the phone on draft day.
     
  11. upstater1

    upstater1 Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2005
    Messages:
    13,168
    Likes Received:
    64
    Ratings:
    +185 / 14 / -3

    Is that why he went to a school with a white coach (Paterno) when he could have just as easily gone to play for Bobby Williams or Tyrone Willingham?
     
  12. JoeSixPat

    JoeSixPat Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    9,965
    Likes Received:
    71
    Ratings:
    +178 / 2 / -3

    technically, as an extraterrestrial, Joe Paterno can't be considered "white"
     
  13. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33,353
    Likes Received:
    1,404
    Ratings:
    +4,024 / 42 / -15

    patriotspride is refering to Larry Johnson's quotes to Cris Carter on "Inside the NFL" that he feels more comfortable playing for a black coach than a white one. He basically said he hated playing for Dick Vermeil because he was white.
     
  14. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33,353
    Likes Received:
    1,404
    Ratings:
    +4,024 / 42 / -15

    I think I would pass on Larry Johnson. RB isn't an area of high need. If we are going to give up Asante Samuel or a first round draft pick, I want to replace them with a player who can fill a bigger need like safety, CB, or ILB.
     
  15. upstater1

    upstater1 Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2005
    Messages:
    13,168
    Likes Received:
    64
    Ratings:
    +185 / 14 / -3

    He didn't say he hated playing for Vermeil because he was white. Not at all. I saw that interview. He said he's more comfortable playing for a black coach. so what? His Dad is a black coach too. You don't think that means anything? I bet white players feel the same with white coaches. And given his experience with Vermeil, who tried to bury Johnson's career, who can blame the kid.

    If he really had a hangup about white coaches, he would have gone to Michigan St or Notre Dame, where two black coaches offered him a scholarship.
     
  16. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33,353
    Likes Received:
    1,404
    Ratings:
    +4,024 / 42 / -15

    I saw the interview too. He didn't come out and say that he hated playing for Vermeil because he was a white caoch, but he damn well implied it.

    Here are some of his comments:

    "They hadn't been in a situation as a young, black athlete and know what we had to go through when we go out," Johnson told interviewer Cris Carter about the previous coaching staff under Dick Vermeil. "We like to go out. We like to have fun, but then you have to worry about the guy around the corner with the gun. You've got to worry about this girl on the block. You've got to worry about your parents, your homeboys taking advantage of you. So many things you have to worry about being a young, black athlete. And to be able to have a father like mine and a coach like Herm, I was able to escape a lot of those realities and find myself in a new ray of light."

    "The one thing we hate is to have somebody who is not African-American come in and say, 'You've got to do this,'" Johnson said. "No matter how you put it, it looks like you're telling me what to do and you don't know where I'm from and what I've got to live through."
     
  17. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33,353
    Likes Received:
    1,404
    Ratings:
    +4,024 / 42 / -15

    And by the way, I don't think he meant it. But he said it. He only has himself to blame for anyone saying anything about it.

    Bottomline is Johnson wasn't man enough to admit he acted like a child under Vermeil and he played the race card to deflect responsibilities for his imature behavior. It was the fact that he was so stressed about a white coach telling him how to lead his life that he fell asleep in team meeting and dogged it in practice. I think it is utter BS, but that was his excuse.

    And by the way, the only one trying to bury Johnson's career was Larry Johnson with imature behavior. Dick Vermeil is a Super Bowl winning coach. He doesn't purposely try to sink players careers especially not a guy he invests a first round pick in.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2007
  18. g-fresh

    g-fresh On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Messages:
    301
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    With the rapid state of decline that the KC o line is in I'd want to be traded if I were him. He can't take another season with the number of carries that he's been taking there either, he's only got one or two more seasons if they keep that up.

    Of course it would make no sense for the Pats or for LJ for him to come here, so I don't think its something we need to be concerned with.
     
  19. zippo59

    zippo59 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    5,072
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Could you imagine what would have happened if a white person had said that, about not being able to take orders form someone who isn't white?

    About this thread, I don't know if this is a hypothetical questions or not, but since when has a team looking at players at a certain position automatically mean they are dissatisfied with the current players they have at that position. The Patriots worked out Drew Stanton, does that mean we want to get rid of Tom Brady? Doesn't it seem reasonable that you would look for a viable back up for a running back who had a record number of carries last year? Johnson needs another player to take some carries so he can have a career longer than seven years.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  20. Tippett56

    Tippett56 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2005
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Too many miles on the clock, he may only be 28 but over the last couple of seasons he has had the carries of 2 NFL seasons in each year.

    No way that his body can take that for another 3 seasons or so.

    Ric
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>