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  1. ironwasp

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    One of the reasons I like PFT is that by and large when they screw up, Florio puts his hand in the air and acknowledges. He's not doing that about the Moss/Seymour situation, but he does admit that the speculation may be something other than well-informed.

    Rumor Mill
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    That's their way of saying "we have no f*cking idea if there is a semblence of truth to any of this sh!t but we're going to repeat it anyway".
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    I guess they can't win.
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    And as long as they repeat it under the headline of "Rumor Mill" that should be understood by readers.
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    I've heard the rumors of resentment are just rumors.
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    If it turns out to be true they'll win. They'll be sure to point it out several times.
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    Posters on here know more than Florio anyways. The only time he's right is when it's a bad thing about a team that isn't the Patriots and when it's a good thing about the Patriots. Forget the fact that his sources are far more numerous and well-informed than anyone on this board anyways.
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    100% correct, and I can't wait to read about which team Moss is going to play for now that he's been cut by the Patriots.
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    Anyone see this one? This flew under the radar I think.


    "Harrison will miss the first four games of the 2007 regular season. We also think he's suddenly at risk of being released, even if doing so would draw a grievance. Harrison is due to earn $2 million in base salary in 2007."
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    Also the post on the Seymour thread with Holley saying he's comfortable saying the rumor is NOT true kind of got ignored too.
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    That's how i read it. Still, nice of them to point is out though.
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    No doubt, it was a solid backtrack :)
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    In other words, "We are a rumor site and we never pretended to be anything but a rumor site".
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    They're right alot more often than most rumor sites. For those hardcore hockey fans out there, I'm sure you're aware of who Eklund is and how laughable his "rumors" (that he just makes up and then charges people for) are.
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    I've always said you have to take that site with a grain of salt. It's an interesting read because they do have some info before the mainstream sports sites since they don't have to publish the sources for their info.

    I do find it a little amusing that when they have stuff about the Colts it must be true, but when it's about the Patriots, the site is garbage and making stuff up.
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    If Florio were really manly (rather than just someone who likes to swear a lot in print) he would come out and say "and we've been printing these reports although they came from people who clearly have a vested interest in seeing the Pats fail" or else "but our sources include people with inside knowledge of the organization".

    He doesn't need to name his sources but it is highly likely that they were outside the organization, because, if he had inside ones, Florio would be the first to let us all know.
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    HEY GUYS. What part of "RUMOR MILL" don't you understand?
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    I'm a little fuzzy on the whole "Rumor mill = just pulling stuff out of our ass with no legitimate confirmation that the rumor even exists" part.
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    na, that's just a rumor
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    You see a rumor mill is what PFT is. Pulling something out our ass with no legitimate confirmation the rumor exists is basically what you are doing and accusing them of.

    It is funny that people are basically libeling PFT by accusing them of just making up rumors that have no source when that is exactly what they are doing about PFT. No one has a single thread of proof that Florio made up a single rumor, but they are portraying it as facts. And they are made at Florio because they are convinced he did the same thing with the Moss and Seymour rumor. I don't get it.
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    Well said.
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    You see, one person making a comment is NOT a rumor, and reporting it as such doesn't change that fact. It's one person making a comment, even if they pass it off as news. Also, saying "We think..." is not a rumor. Reporting non-rumor information on the site (about Vick, for example) is not a rumor. In other words, the "rumor mill" is an amalgam of rumor, legitimate reporting, editorials and complete assertions. It is not just being used as a rumor site, and you know that full well. Therefore, you're being misleading at the very least.


    Who's libeling them?
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    Man Patriots fans are testy, Florio reports what he ehars under the stipulation it's a rumor, that is all. at no point does he say this is what is going on, he clearly states this is what I am hearing, take it as you like. He in no way has said anything like "Make no mistake about it, they hate their coach". OK that is an example of a false claim from a much more public figure.
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    From PFT's Rumor Mill and still on the site's front page:




    Now, explain to me how that's a rumor and not the site pulling something out of its ass.
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    The problem you're having is we do understand what a rumor mill is.

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    And can someone explain to me why the Harrison/Samuel rumor is important? I read that yesterday and thought, "who cares?" and also probably not since rumors of Samuels return preceeded the Harrsion story by weeks.
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    It's an editorial piece making a logical connection that, in some ways, makes alot of sense. It may or may not be true, but nowhere does he say "this is an absolute truth." You should know the difference between opinion/editorial pieces and fact-based reports.
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    Please read my posts before responding to them. I asked for an explanation of how that's a rumor. I don't believe that it is one. It's the site pulling a theory out of its ass.

    Notice the earlier post I'd made:

    In this case, the site even admitted it was coming up with this on its own. I'm sorry.... that they "borrowed the present concept" from a cousin.
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    I'm still trying to get my head around how you libel a rumor mill.

    Maybe by accusing them of reporting only the verified truth.
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    Ummm.... Read the article again. They do not portray this as anything but speculation. Florio made it perfectly clear that it was speculation. He didn't say there was a rumor that Harrison's suspension affected negotiations with Samuel or that they heard it anywhere.

    If anything, this is further evidence that you are libeling the guy. When Florio speculates he appears to acknowledge that he does. When he hears rumors he puts them in as rumors. You have yet to show a single thread of evidence that Florio makes up rumors and providing pretty positive proof that he clarifies when he speculates vs. when he actually hears a rumor.

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