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  1. Holy Diver

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    Big day tomorrow.....Its not everyday that all 3 candidates will be asking the commanding general on the ground in a current war/occupation about their future problem. VERY interesting day.
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    John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama all serve on the Senate committees that will hear testimony from Petraeus and the US ambassador to Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, and are expected to use the hearings to demonstrate their credentials on national security and the future of the war.

    Petraeus has indicated he will tell Congress he wants to freeze further withdrawals from Iraq, keeping in place two of the five brigades of additional troops deployed during last year's troops surge.

    The recommendation, which George Bush is expected to endorse on Thursday in a speech to mark the fifth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad, will effectively put the war on hold for the next 10 months.

    That makes it virtually certain some 140,000 US troops will remain in Iraq when the next president takes office next January.
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    who comes out more "commander in chief" like

    McCain - Obama - or Clinton???
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    Auntie Pelosi and her little gang of sh!theads have already warned Petraeus not to say anything good about Iraq...........:singing:

    I'd like to see Petraeus tell Nancy to shove her False Teeth up Harry Reids A$s.

    :bricks:
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    People will be looking for a sound bite, instead of looking for the right information. Sadly, the 3 people mentioned will probably all be looking to make politics out of something that they should be taking as seriously as is humanly possible.

    Remember this one important fact. No matter who wins in November, there won't be a pullout in Iraq. That goes for Obama, Hillary, and McCain. They can dance all they want about what they'll do, but in the end, when they meet with the people in the know, they'll stay invested in the task at hand. There's simply too much at stake there. The only variable will be the level of investment.
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    NEM come on, you've got to try and look at things objectively at least occasionally. How is Petraeus a puppet of the administration? Do you realize that the President is Commander in Chief of the armed forces? If the President comes to a general and asks for a plan to stabilize Iraq, the General is duty bound to provide that plan, and implement it. Petraeus has implemented a plan that has reduced violence in Iraq, that is undeniable. He has done well so far, you are letting your hate for the administration cloud your thinking.
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    Well, Hillary can't come out looking any worse than she did last time with her "willing suspension of disbelief" comment. Like RW said, this (like everything that goes on in public sessions of Congress) will be nothing more than a few Senators trying to score some PR points.
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    ...Auntie Pelosi? Like the dems are going to get us out of Iraq? Hahah. We are never leaving Iraq and it certainly is not up to "the people" of the US to decide on it. Our masters have decreed it so. Man up, peasants!
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    All I'm saying is I don't think a general that has implemented a plan in Iraq that has reduced violence to give political reconciliation a chance is so deserving of your scorn.
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    Stokes :
    The only strong general that can say and said "no" ,to the White House, had stepped down. Petraeus is good ,but he is playing his cards , i don't blame him to be ambitious.
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    Human nature is like that for some ;) , i think he will end up leading NATO very soon, and if he does well , he could end up one day,in the WH too , who knows !
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    The hate and loathing of this great general just ozeez from the posts of those who hate the thought of America winning in Iraq.
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    I don't see it that way, I mean, the generals don't make the policy, nor should they. The policy is set by the White House, and it is the job of the generals to implement the best strategy possible for that policy to succeed. There is no place for a general to say no to the White House, and it is right for them to step down if they truly feel they can't execute the orders they're given. I'm saying with the policy already set Petraeus has done a good job of getting the best results he could.
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    #37 Jersey

    Nah, not NEM or WW83, say it ain't so PF13:bricks:
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    GREAT GENERAL?

    Washington, Grant, Eisenhower, Patton, .....PATRAEUS?!:eek::confused:

    Some friggin perspective, huh, ladies?
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    So far he has conducted the finest counterinsurgent campaign ever, his tatics are as revoluntary as those developed by Guderian in the 1920's.
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    Why do you think that? He's proven himself an excellent strategist, do you think Obama or Clinton would show him the door? I don't see any reason why they'd want to get rid of him. Or do you think he'd quit if they won?
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    lol , please ,these tactics had been done for decades now !

    The Pentagon held a screening in 2003 of "The Battle of Algiers," a movie about French troops winning control of the Algerian capital.

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    Nobody has copied anything militarily from the French since 1812.

    You really hate it when America is doing well don't you....:singing:
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    Never make fun of a countries soldiers... just their government
    :rolleyes:


    Now go back to some reading ,son:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0629/p01s02-wome.html
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    This whole surge idea wasn't his. If you had watched frontline after we took Falusia the commander on the ground came up with the idea of staying in an area that was captured. After retakeing the same neighberhoodss by day and loseing by night he decided to stay. He called it by another name something like "capture and hold". It was even brought up to people like Rumsfeld who dismissed it. I can't remember the commanders name,or what exactly he called the technique he used (I'm sure there are others who can) but Petraous,and the gang at the White House grabed on to it as a last chance option. So Petraous never came up with this tactic,but was credited with doing so by the Bushies.
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    Well somebody paid attention to that movie, but it wasn't bush or rummy,or petraous. It was the commander in Falugia I believe,and even though he pretty much tamed the town he was originally dismissed by his superiors.

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