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  1. Grizzafted

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    On Colin Cowherd's show, he says that Rex Ryan told him that Indy was especially good at stealing defensive signals. FWIW.
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    No No No!! The Colts would never do anything like that.....:rofl:
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    and Rex Ryan used to work for..................................................

    BB
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    The Colts cheat a lot. People have always complained that they pump crowd noise through their speakers for home games which is illegal too.
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    i think it was rob ryan who used to work for BB
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    Well, look, this is the whole issue. If this is a common practice, the media better damn well do their due diligence and make sure it's part of the story.
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    yeah but...Rob is Rex's brother, so there's definitely something fishy going on... :rolleyes:
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    Yeah, the difference is they have a guy on the competition committee and we don't. They're like the Football Illuminati.
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    What else did King say? Do the Colts send someone with a camera to tape the signs? I can imagine that all teams try to look for signs, sending a guy to tape them seems odd to me (and against the rules).
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    Just wondering, did he say they taped them or that they just stole signals?

    Oh please, let that one go. That was just one idiot reporter that wasn't used to how loud it gets in a dome talking to another that saw the network crowd mics and believed it as gospel.
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    They're going to need more than crowd noise in week 9.I want sweet revenge.
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    I caught the tail end of Peters little blurb but didn't know what team was fingering St. Dungy and Msgr. Polian. Said the team had to start color coding wrist bands for their defensive playcallers that they would switch up from series to series so that the calls were meaningless as is. LOL

    King ended of course on the fence where he always rests on these issues. Everybody does it and has forever, BUT...if the Pat's got caught Goodell should punish them. LOL

    He then went on to say he likes us over SD because of our capacity to max protect Tommy now that Randy, who he says his sources tell him would have always played better when surrounded by talent he respects, is out there running patterns.

    Then Colin nailed him on last nights MNF football follies. Told him he just doesn't get the hype for a QB who, if you use the olympic judging system and throw out his one good year and his worst year is a 13TD and 10INT QB now gone creaky... Peter started mumbling about how last night was an anomoly and Baltimore can win lots of 13-10 games. None of the talking Football Heads want to focus on how inept most of their league sources are and how truly uncompetitive this league has become, not because of cheating but because of moronic recycling of inept QB and coaching talent.

    It's just easier to pontificate about how the best teams have historically cheated their way out of parity and Belichick should be spanked to send them all a message.
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    Reporter Les Bowen in the philadelphia daily news said the same thing about the Colts last year, their extremely good at stealing defensive signals.
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    Thanks MoLewisRocks.

    I was hoping he gave some new info on this. Nothing new has come out since yesterday.
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    I would say all the teams are in on some type of sign stealing. Every coach has that clipboard covering his mouth when calling plays on the sideline. I'm guessing that there is more to it then someone just reading lips from across the way.
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    Okay, is it stealing signals that is illegal or videotaping them as a method of stealing that is illegal?

    Come on now. If stealing signals is illegal, then all methods to do so should be considered illegal.

    And for the record, I don't care what the Colts do to gain a competitive advantage. Pipe in crowd noise, steal signals, so what. Teams do this, always have, probably always will. What is the big effin' deal? Let's play ball already, this is so overblown and STUPID.
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    I really could care less as well, but if everyone is going to call the Patriots out for it than maybe they should know the angel Colts aren't so innocent either?
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    Peter King has always been a bit of a tool. I prefer Rick Riley as far as SI guys go.


    The guys over at Profootbaltalk had a good idea for a solution to problem in general. Put headsets in a defensive players helmet just like in the QB's. That way there is no need to signal in a play call and no way to steal the signs.
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    I believe they voted that down this year at the league meetings. Don't know what the reason was, because it seems to make sense.
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    It's the videotaping:

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    I hope Bill Polian doesn't find out.
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    If there is a mic in the LB helmet, then teams will steal the electronic signal. (The story is that we already did that in NY too.)
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    The reason is that they want the offense to have an advantage.
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    Right, and at the end of the day IF we did it that's not a big deal if other teams are "stealing" signs by their chosen method. Some innocuous thing isn't a big deal - stealing signs would be if all other teams were choir boys.

    A big deal is being made over little.
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    Why do they have them in QB's helmets then?
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    But it's a big deal because videotaping is against the rules. That's what the NFL is investigating. They wouldn't investigate if it was just some NE coach peering at the D coaches from across the field.

    It's no big deal in baseball if the batter or the guy on second is trying to steal signs. Someone might get a fastabll up and in, but MLB isn't going to investigate. But if the teams made it more complex, and planted a guy with a camera in one of the dugouts and focused it on the catcher to get the signs, it would be a no-no. It's about degrees of wrong here.
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    My biggest complaint here is show me a team that isn't doing this. The fact that the Pats were this open about it hints that they did this for ulterior reasons. My guess to take the pressure off the players heading into SD. Nothing BB does is without calculation.
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    There might be more teams doing it, I don't know, but it doesn't really matter since the Pats were the ones caught.

    I agree though, that I still don't get it why it was apparently so blatant, and why they continued to do it after the camera guy got caught in Green Bay. It also makes me think that there must be something here we're missing, because I can't yet believe the Patriots were that dumb. But I don't buy that it had to do with taking pressure off the players. The team has faced much more pressure than a second regular season game, no matter the opponent.
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    There have been allegations of the Colts and other teams pumping crowd noise in their stadiums for years. It just became a big deal when one reporter accused them of it publically.

    It is very likely that Colts pump crowd noise through their speakers and still do. And probably most teams do. How can you prove the did?
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    Going 56 in a 55 is against the rules - is it a big deal ?
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