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great piece on ghost
The best 16 minutes of the season - Peter King - SI.com
I have to give Peter King credit, for him to remember the David Thomas penalty and the 3rd and 15 conversion is impressive. Sure we all remember those 2 moments because we are Patriots diehards but this guy watches a lot of football games and for him to correctly identify 2 moments like that is pretty damn good. Especially when you consider that I get the feeling that half the sports writers don't watch any of the games, LOL.
No violin...bend over..that vuilin's going where the sun don't shine..Thought he was a jerk last year..really don't care for him..interesting observations...but King to me is and always WILL BE a hypocrite..
but as expected he doesnt say mch abt favre and with him out starts to fawn over manning.
colts/giants SB is not what i want to see.it might be the ultimate nightmare end to the season !
Iam rooting for PHL hard. reid and donovan deserve a lot better.
He is 100% correct.
The critical plays that the Pats usually make didn't happen in key situations during each of those games he mentions. I would also add the key drops Moss had in the first half of that Steelers game. Had the Pats gone up by 10 in that game it would have changed the strategy for the second half.
Technically, Matt's record was 10-5 as he did not start against KC. However, it was still a scoreless game when Tom went down, so for all practical purposes, he was 11-5.
Peter King once again flashes idiot-savant, he must have a good intern helping him. Like too many small minds, he's too quick to point to one "mistake" and claim it was the decisive play in a 16 game season while ignoring the player's overall body of work. Someone like Favre who made a career of screwing up in critical moments gets a pass from the Peter-less Kings, but singling out a kid like Thomas for one mistake in the heat of battle is monkey spanking time for him as he struggles to think one coherent thought in his quest for the next Starbucks. Kudos to his intern for the Gostkowski look back.
Sweet Re-torte. May no one accuse you of the "good" in turn; you are all Box.
Vinatraitor will be collecting his 5th super bowl ring at the end of this season, so...
Fu(k Peter King.
He's one of the fools who drove the whole "spy-gate" bullsh!t through to it's absurd dimensions last year. All he does is spew a few obvious stats that any NFL fan would know.
Thanks for stating the obvious, dipsh!t.
Don't get it twisted, Peter King is the biggest closet Patriot fan. I've been reading him for a long time and his insight and comments regarding the Patriots scream fan homerism. Don't get it wrong, I love his columns because he is another national columnist who loves to write about my team, but apart from his criticism of Belichick regarding spygate (and I completely understand where he was coming from), he's been riding the Pats jocks since Belly took over.
Can't agree with Peter King. The reasoning, as usual, makes no sense. If the Patriots had made those plays, then they'd be 12-4, eh?
Well, let's play the IF game a little more. IF the Ravens hadn't had that call overturned by Walt Coleman against the Steelers, IF the Dolphins hadn't let the Texans come back and given up a Schaub run with .03 seconds left, then the Patriots would STILL have missed the playoffs with a 12-4 record.
We can also reverse this a bit too. IF the 49ers had not spiked the ball on 1st down late in the game against the Dolphins, they could have had an extra down to get that extra yard and give them a 1st down with plenty of time to play in the red zone allowing them to beat the Phins, and IF the Cowboys didn't allow super long runs from scrimmage against the Ravens they would have won, and IF the Seahwaks stopped Sammy Morris on 4th down, the Patriots would have AGAIN just missed the playoffs at 10-6.
This IF game is arbitrary. Playing the IF game also shows that the Patriots could have easily lost tiebreakers with both 12 wins and 10 wins.
To top it off, here's a BIG IF right here. IF the ref doesn't throw a flag on Mike Vrabel late in the Patriots-Jets game, the Jets kick a field goal to go up by 3 points. The flag on Vrabel gave the Jets 4 more downs to score a TD. Between the time of the flag and the Jets TD on that possession, over a minute went off the clock and the Patriots used up all their timeouts.
The Patriots had 1:10 seconds to go downfield and score that TD to Moss.
With no flag on Vrabel, however, the Patriots would have had 2+ minutes and timeouts, the Patriots would not have had to settle for a field goal in regulation to tie and send it into overtime. They had plenty of time to score the winning TD.
You can't play Peter King's IF game. Winning 11 games is probably the most you could have asked of this team. They lost the Jets game yes, but they also stole one from the Seahawks. Such is life in the NFL.
And finally the thing that pisses me off after the refs throw that flag, the NFL's Ray Anderson is standing outside the Jets locker room with a big smile on his face, congratulating Tenenbaum and Woody Johnson with a big, "I told you so."
Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong regarding spygate/King. He's a Red Sox fan, not A Patriots fan.
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