Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by SVN, Oct 16, 2007.
completely agree with him here.
Whaaaa...Peter King making sense??
Still, call me a skeptic, but his sudden reasonable treatment of the Patriots might have something to do with SI having Brady and the Pats on the cover this week. Perhaps he had some pressure from above to lay off the BS for a friggin week and let the magazine ride some positive Patriots hype.
Who gives a flying f*ck what this sanctimonious piece of garbage, this fat-as*sed muckracker thinks?
Maybe the Patriots had videotape from the future and foresaw the Cowboys breakdowns inside.
Or maybe BB read their minds and used Jedi mind tricks on them.
Or maybe the Cowboys just suck.
I agree....I'm also surprised he didn't bring up 'spygate' again.
Things Peter Ding should bring up...
1) Smorgasbord Gate.."was that really 10 pounds of Alaskan King Crab I just ate, or processed pollock?"
2) Blubberguts Gate..."hey! I can't see my pee pee!"
3) University of Phoenix Online Gate..."I paid $49.95 for my degree...you WILL respect my opinion!"
4)Intergalactic Moron Gate..."No...I am NOT an illegal alien...I'm a space alien!"
While I agree completely with King on this one, I also love this explanation:
"Right after Junior Seau's interception clinched the Patriots' 48-27 victory in Dallas on Sunday, my BlackBerry vibrated with a six-word text from my friend Willy:
Don't expect to see Tom Brady "take a knee" anytime soon.
"Here comes the Eff You TD.""
Is "off tackle" considered the same as "up the gut"?? IIRC, the TACKLE plays outside the Guard, who plays outside the center. Not exactly "up the gut", is it?
who cares what he thinks or why he thinks it?
Great point; if they had run behind a guard and scored, I'd say they did not try to run up the score, but the fact that they ran one hole over, behind a tackle, leaves no doubt they were trying to run up the score.
When they put in their 12th string fullback who was in street clothes a couple of weeks ago, I turned to my girlfriend and said "Baby, here comes the Eff you TD!" We'll show those Colts what they are in for in a couple of weeks, because that is why they did it.
See, EVERYTHING the Patriots do is all about the Colts. My next door neighbors cousins uncle whos brother owns a sub shop next to the coffee shop BB goes to said he walks out of there after stopping to get a cup of Joe on the way to the stadium every morning mumbling "Must do stuff to irritate the Colts and their fans at the end of every game."
Speaking of which, if it had been the Colts they would have passed for a TD on fourth down.
The smart thing to do AFTER DALLAS CALLED A TIMEOUT would have been to be good sports and simply take a knee, so they could take over on downs, heave a hail mary pass for a TD, try and succeed at an onside kick, recover and heave another hail mary TD. Yep, THAT would have been the right thing to do because football is a gentlemans game afterall, fair play and all that good stuff.
To expand on your point further, if they ran BETWEEN a guard and a tackle, is that running up the score or not?
I could swear I saw a quote from T.O. saying he would do the same thing in that situation, but I can't find it right now.
Peter almost told the truth. I fixed that for him:
Peter just doesn't know what to think, or say, or quote any more. And to think, all he had to do was STFU for a week when spygate broke and he could have thought what Bob Costas now thinks after a sitdown heart to heart with the Commish, whose cell phone # Peter King surely must have.... Peter King could have broken the story of the year - that there was nothing more to "spygate" than a rules violation.
umm, no, im pretty sure eckel was supposed to run rit up the "gut", but hes s natural football player...he saw an opening a hole over, so he went through it...wut did u expect? him to stand there until he gets tackled and leave the endzone all by itself? cmon now guys, we wanted to give eckel a TD, we were not trying to run up the score...
but even if we were...wut size dress do u wear?
This topic always gets me irritated. This is a sixty minute game. Put the game away and go home. If the NFL teams don't like the concept of sixty minute play, then they can institute a new rule allowing the losing team to concede the game to the winning team thereby ending the game.
Outside of Cameragate, THERE IS NO BIGGER BILL-WALSHER OF THE PATRIOTS THAN PETER KING. Please stop pretending this isn't the case. I too think he's been a complete buffoon when it comes to the Estrella Incident, obsessed, uninformed, a complete LOSER. But the guy has a loooong history of total ASS-KISSING of all things Patriot.
Let's get real.
I don't think they were running up the score at all. That doesn't mean I agree with you screwballs that they had no other choice, or that you've never seen a team take a knee on 4th down. Tell you what, don't waste your time trying to find a game where a team came back from 14 down, with 20 ticks to play, starting from their own 2. On the other hand, with a little effort, I think you might be able to find that a team somewhere at some point (Div.1 or NFL) has taken a knee on 4th down to end a game.
As far as the verbage "up the gut", folks make it sound like the guy took the handoff and made a bee line for the center, and fell forward. The fact is, the runs WERE NOT up the gut, the RB was in fact, trying to score. But good for him, might be his only shot. But certainly no one is fooled by the description of how the play(s) unfolded. AND, if you were REALLY concerned about a comeback, how much sense does it make to even HAND THE BALL OFF to a 4th stringer? A safer play would seem to be "kneeling" on it. OI don't blame the Boys for calling a TO, they had to. But once you take that knee on second and third, and that clock keeps ticking, the reality sets in, and the niceties take place.
As far as throwing for a TD on 4th, you have no idea what you are talking about. Let me know what you'd like me to disprove relative to that point.
I agree. It's the 1st time I recall he said anything negative about the Patriots. Sometimes reporters so things at the behest, suggestion, gentle nudge or whatever of thier sources or contacts. I don't really know what his motives are.
uhhh; check the clock buddy. The whole point of the argument is that once Dallas called their time out; even if they took a knee on fourth down they would turn the ball over to Dallas and give them 20-30 seconds on the clock to try and throw hail marys. And if you are BB do you really want our fragile secondary (seems like they all break like china dolls every year ) to go out there on 3-4 consecutive 50 yard pass patterns with collisions and jump balls all over the place.
Or is it your thought in your brain trust there that on 4th down they should put wes welker in the backfield and tell him. Wes, just run around out there dont step out of bounds and see if you can burn up 30 seconds on one single down.
..... That would be an even more brilliant way to get someone hurt.
All told once they called the timeout the only way to make sure Dallas threw in the towel was to put up 3 scores - 2 TDs and a FG or 3 TDs on them. That way Dallas would know they had NO HOPE OF getting 3 scores in 30 seconds. Anything less .....and HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.
Over on the CMB-alot of them are crying sour grapes over BB supposedly running up the score.
Honestly-we also cried sour grapes when Sean Payton did an onsides kick on the 3rd qtr(yeah, they were up by 3 scores, but there was PLENTY of time left in the game nonetheless).
BB did nothing wrong, IMHO-I'm only crying sour grapes b/c we laid an egg in the second half of that game.
Taking a knee would have burned as much time as those 2-3 yard runs. even if they still run 2nd and 3rd the same way, the RB scores with 19 seconds left, so a knee would have roughly left the same amount of time.
DUDE, NO ONE is going to score on a 98 yard play in less than at least 11-12 seconds. Please, go find where a team scored 14 points in 20 seconds, with the first score coming from their own 2 yard line.
Here's a thought. Next time, hike it to Randy in the shot gun. Have his blazing 3.33 speed run the hell down to the other goal line. I bet it would have taken a half hour for anyone on that tired D to go track him down. Game over, problem solved
I've been Peter King free for 3 weeks now and my enjoyment of the NFL hasn't dropped a bit. In fact, its increased because I don't have to bother filtering through his agenda driven crapola.
It's amazing to me how fast he has gone from respected journalist to Rush Limbaugh in a matter of weeks.
Do yourselves a favor. Remove the link from favorites menu. Unsubscribe to his RSS feed, don't click on the links. Everything he writes for the rest of career has become tainted and he can't undo what he has done.
We weren't running up the score but even if we did, WHO CARES?
Don't want to be embarrassed? Then stop us.
Fine, but what do you think about Peter King?
I'm guessing that King just likes using the word "gut"?
Yes!!! I too am a proud member of the King-free opinion army!:rocker:
They wanted to lose by 7. They weren't good enough to lose by 14. So we had no choice but to beat them by 21.
"Have his blazing 3.33 speed"...........and your boy is a fvcking gazelle out there too right?
I've never seen a poster quite like you HBM; you have the ability to speak with incredibe football knowledge in one thread, then look like the biggest retard on the face of the earth in another.
Split personality disorder perhaps? Not sure, but it is really weird.
Please. Their last two letters pages (referring to the Moss cover issue and the next one) have included 5 anti-Pats Spy-Gate letters, and not one pro-Pats one.
U realize the 3.33 is a joke, correct? Just saying that the "excuses", not that any are needed) are a bunch of BS. NO ONE HERE thinks the Boys would EVER score 14 points in 20 seconds, starting from their own 2. It is close to physically impossible.
Tell me again about the 4th down TD passes inside the 5?? With the team up by 14, with less than 30 seconds to go??
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