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  1. SVN

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/12/02/week13/5.html
    i wish king confirmed what jaws saw before just accepting what he was saying...
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    what he wrote about the moss contract is absolutely ridiculous. so, if randy moss doesn't take a lot less money than he is worth on the free agent market, he isn't serious about winning? so, by using King's own logic and examples, is Peyton Manning not serious about winning? Of course, King won't say that about precious Peyton, but he'll say it about Moss. Unbelievable. It really make syou think...
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    I actually agree with King about the basic principle. At this point, the teams that are consistently winning don't need to, won't want to, or can't afford to pay as much as the teams that would desperately love to have someone of his ability. So, the basic idea--that he has to choose between guaranteed $ and winning--isn't terribly far-fetched.
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    Didn't make you think enough, evidently.

    If you want to win consistently, you need a good team. And if the top-paid players each take a fe mil less a year, then better backups can be signed.

    No, one one is required to do it. But if you REALLY want to win more than you REALLLY want to squeeze wvery last penny out of a club for yourself, you will do it.

    No one is saying to sign for 3 mi. But if his financial future is secure, and his goal in life is now to win, why would he go to the Dolphins (for instance) for 10 mil a year, rather than to the Pats for 7-8 mil a year?

    Think about it for a minute. What would make him (or you or anyone) happiest. That is what your goal should be. To make that happen.
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    actually, by mentioning the Brady deal as a great one, he basically says the Peyton deal was much worse for the team. he has mentioned this over and over again.

    Peter King is a huuuuuge Brady lover

    his point about Moss was really "if he cares about winning he'll take a healthy deal from the Pats, but not demand every last dollar." Just like Brady & Seymour did.
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    My point isn't that Peter King's premise is wrong, its that he only is calling Moss out for this. I don't recall him calling Manning or Vick selfish when they signed their gigantic deals. I see it as evidence of a double standard. That aspect of the sory wasn't raised. Instead, it was all about what an important move it was to lock up these star athletes, and how great it was that they would retire with their drafting teams, etc.

    Its evidence of a double standard that the media has for Moss. When he's catching bombs they say he's afraid to get hit or go over the middle. When he does just that as he did last week in the Eagles game, they ignore it and say he isn't trying or else he would have caught one of those long passes.

    And wow, you guys are catty today.
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    Peter King used to be the be all and end all of NFL Resources... But now that NFL Network, and the internet has gotten bigger, and he is just a bitter person that thinks his opinon matters, when there are 70 other talking heads doing the same thing.
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    Franchise him!

    Moss isn't going anywhere.

    The Patriots will offer him a solid long term deal in February, before the deadline for designating franchise players.

    I think they'll get the deal done then, but if they don't, Randy is getting franchised. (Unless they have already agreed not to do so).

    Between his reputation and the terms of the CBA, Moss does not have the leverage to hold out unless the Pats give him a truly insulting offer.

    We shouldn't be surprised to hear his friends say that he wants to be paid at the market rate. What else are they going to say? "My friend Randy would like to be paid half what he is worth"?
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    I dont think Moss leaves either.

    Honestly at this point how much MORE money could he possibly want?
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    I actually do remember him comparing Brady's deal to Manning's and saying how much better Brady's was for his team.
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    I wonder if there is any way to get Moss and Samuel for competitve, slightly below market, cap-friendly deals?
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    Yes but he didn't question Manning's willingness to win because of it did he? Of course not.
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    not in those words, but it was implied that his contract was a "me first" contract
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    And yet the Colts as a team have had success since 2004 even winning a Super Bowl since Manning signed his so-called "me first" contract.
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    "Tough Call for the Patriots"? HAHAHA. That's what they said last year. I guess that's why someone like Belichick who has some sense stands out so much in this league. I swear, it's really scary how some of these people cannot see what is right in front of them.
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    Just look at Indy this year. They've lost some key players that they've dedicated a ton of cap dollars too, and now they're struggling somewhat because their replacements are JAG's.
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