Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by patchick, Apr 22, 2008.
Adam Shefter also. 5 years, 57 million, 30 million guaranteed. I guess I need to do another mock draft now.
Let the speculation on who the Rams are going to take begin in earnest.
Russell FYI got 32 in guarantees last year with a maximimum value of 68 mil over 6 years.
This is good. Now there is nothing holding back the Rams from trying to reach a contract agreement with their choice. Unless they are trying to trade down.
If they are smart their choice will be Dorsey.
Hopefully it isn't Chris Long. I'm hoping that he'll be available for the Patriots, but I'm not holding my breath.
Interesting but I agree..it's done early and now the Rams can continue it all....Hmmm makes it more interesting with ONE pick all done...delivered...
Jake's deal features around a $100K yearly avg increase over Russell's, and $30M "guaranteed" is actually a better deal on a 5 year contract, since he can enter free agency a year earlier.
OT: If I have the option of signing a player to a six year contract, I'm going to do everything I can to get that extra year.
Jay Glazer of Foxsports broke this story followed by Schefter then ESPN (As they're notoriously known to do) tried to scoop the information and give credit to Mort because of his supposed close relationship to the Tuna.
Notice espn says "Sources told" instead of Chris Mortenson is reporting. Big difference there. Here's the real sources Schefter (Money) after Glazer (Story).
LONG GETS $30 MILLION GUARANTEED
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 1:16 p.m.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57.5 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.
Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $3.5 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.
And since different people interpret the term âguaranteedâ differently, the only way to compare Longâs deal to Russellâs is to line âem up and parse the language.
For Parcells, itâs a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), itâs a win because the deal covers one less season.
Weâd still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
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THE RAMS ARE ON THE CLOCK
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 12:59 p.m.
The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long. Because, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, Long has agreed to terms with the Miami Dolphins to become the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
Itâs a five-year deal, which might be one of the major concessions that the Dolphins had to make in order to hold down the total money to be paid to Long. Typically, the No. 1 overall pick signs a six-year deal.
Glazer says that Long is already in the building, for a press conference that apparently will start at 1:45 p.m. EDT.
There are many details to be discovered about this one, including whether linebacker/defensive end Vernon Gholston ever had a chance to take less than the amount that was accepted by Long. Since Long and Gholston are represented by the same firm, any efforts to leverage one player against the other likely never materialized â even though it would have been in Gholstonâs best interests for a reverse bidding war to occur.
As it now stands, Gholston could slide out of the top five, and heâll earn far less money than if heâd been the No. 1 overall pick.
For those of you who still donât realize the extent of the conflict of interest that CAA had on this issue, think of it this way. Gholstonâs agent should have been calling the Dolphins every five minutes, pimping his client and suggesting that heâd consider doing something less than Longâs deal in order to be the No. 1 overall pick. In turn, Longâs agent should have then been required to scramble in order to keep the Fins focused on his client.
But since both men are represented by the same agency, it most likely never happened. And, as we suspected, Gholston is the one who has gotten screwed.
It really does change up the top of the draft. Does KC target Clady now, or do they trade down? What does Atlanta do if Dorsey is off the board?
Don't be surprised to see New Orleans try to trade into the #2 pick. They looooove Dorsey.
ESPN radio just had Scott Linehan on & of course he wouldn't say who he was picking lol but he did mention DL as one of their biggest needs.
I agree on Dorsey.
I think anyone who did a Mock should not be allowed to change now that Jake went one. If you were wrong your wrong. I mean media people, I don't care how many you guys on here do.
How does this work on Draft Day ? Do they simply not start the clock for Miami and announce Jake Long as the No 1 pick straight away ?
So . . . $57M/5 = $11.4M/yr with $30M/5 = $6M/yr guaranteed
$68M/6 = $11.33M/yr with $32M/6 = $5.33M/yr guaranteed
So, (very slightly) higher potential average, much higher guarantee.
My money is on Dorsey, but I've been wrong before.
Dorsey will be pick #2 (my opinion based on what I hear about the Rams plan and based on what I sense teams are feeling about Chris Long). (Nothing bad about Long just some cold feet from some moreso than others but Dorsey fits better with the plan.)
They start the clock and Miami puts in the pick when they are ready and can take the full 10 minutes if desired.
lol this is why I hold off posting a mock until the last week.
No they'll still put Miami on the clock. Most years the #1 is signed prior to draft day. Leave it to Al Davis to not know they could do that.
So it's looking like
1. J Long
6. C Long
1. J Long
6. C. Long
7. trade down with a team that wants McFadden or Ellis
Either way, it looks like the Pats have a very good shot at trading up to #5 for C. Long, so that KC can take Clady at #7.
1. J Long
2. C Long (depending if St. L would rather line up a DT-DE combo of Carriker-Long or Dorsey-Carriker)
3. Dorsey (New Orleans has reportedly been trying to trade into this spot)
7. ????? I guess if somebody wants to get ahead of Baltimore for Ryan, or Baltimore themselves.
It's really wide open.
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