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Pepper Johnson to join Buffalo Bills as Defensive Line Coach

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    Christopher Price ‏@cpriceNFL 54s
    Per @coachingsearch, Pepper Johnson will be joining Bills coaching staff.
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    Didn't that job (DC) already go to Jim Schwartz?
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    Good for him ...

    They were saying on the radio today that he was more let go than he decided to go ... they didn't speculate as to why ... but good for him .. .hopefully he makes it to DC or higher someday.
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    Who specifically said this?
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    Best wishes, Pepper. Thanks for your contributions.
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    Seriously? I can't believe we let him go - the DL and LB have always been a stable (at times strong) component of our defense. I wonder if it is just typical Pats propaganda spilling the "let go" thing. :rolleyes:
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    I'm sure he was good while here. Whether he wanted to go or he was greased, doesn't really matter to me. Onward and upward...hopefully...
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    He obviously didn't leave for a promotion as he'll be a position coach again.

    So he was either let go or left without a promotion hoping to get a promotion elsewhere down the road. The former seems very possible.

    Remember position coaches don't just coach their position they also have a strategic role, for a guy like Pepper it could have been blitz packages, red zone defense, whatever.

    With the hiring of the Vikings DL coach I'm assuming Graham will go back to LB and Bill wanted someone with more experience with 4-3 DL.
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    Good luck to him
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    Johnson does have more of a future in Buffalol.

    Schwartz will get another shot at HC soon which gives Johnson a path to a promotion.
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    Your buddy ... from the media ... Steve LOL
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    Might be a landing spot for Spikes too...
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    Let's go Bills!
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    I think your mistake was assuming that he was going there to definitely become DC, nothing more. He's going to remain a position coach the same way he was here.

    Yes, Joker, Jim Schwartz. May the Schwartz be with you...and one more reason to dislike the Bills on top of that. He seems like kind of an arrogant hot-headed type of guy (IMO).
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    Here is a fun fact: Pepper Johnson has been with Bill Belichick for 24 years of his life...that's a mighty long time.

    - Pepper played for the Giants for five years when Belichick was the defensive coordinator there

    - Pepper played for the Browns for three years when Belichick was the Head Coach there

    - Pepper played for the Jets for two years when Belichick was the assistant head coach / defensive guy there.

    - Pepper coached linebackers and d-line the entire time Belichick has been the Head Coach for the Patriots, and that's 14 years.

    Do the math...that's 24 years.

    Nobody has been with Belichick longer in his football life. Dunno why he "decided" to leave, but Pepper Johnson has a great opportunity in Buffalo as the d-line coach...three Bills d-lineman played in the Pro Bowl this year.
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    Good for Pepper, now he can toil and labor in the north country... Schwartz is an old BB buddy and if he moves on, may provide more of an opportunity for Pepper...

    24 years is a long time.. a whole generation??
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    Such a weird name for a team. Should've been the Bison, or Buffaloes. Or Snowmen.
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    The Jills have a pretty good D.

    I anticipate another big '4 - 12' or '5-11' season from that team ;)
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    Best of luck to Pepper. I'll always remember when he forearm shivered Chad Morton on the sideline. :lol:
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    Listen, Upstate New Yorkers are very picky about what you call the regions. The North Country refers to the region north of Albany west to Watertown. Central is Syracuse and Binghamton. Western is Rochester and Buffalo. The Southern Tier is Jamestown and Corning.
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    In the "olden" days, the wild west extended out to Buffalo. Well, at least the shoot-em up shows were planted in Buffalo for awhile. Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show was stationed there before and well after the Pan Am Exposition in 1901. In fact, Calamity Jane was arrested and jailed several times for barfights in Buffalo even up until a month or so before she died in the Dakotas in 1903.
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    They still have the same old problem of a lowrent front office.

    Look at the drafts of the last 10 years, take an extra look at the players Buffalo picked and who they passed over. It's unbelievable. They traded up for Losman in 2004 and lost their 2005 pick.

    2004 22 J. P. Losman Quarterback
    2005 - No Pick - -
    2006 8 Donte Whitner Safety
    2006 26 John McCargo Defensive tackle
    2007 12 Marshawn Lynch Running back
    2008 11 Leodis McKelvin Defensive back
    2009 11 Aaron Maybin Defensive end/Outside Linebacker
    2009 28 Eric Wood Center
    2010 9 C.J. Spiller Running back
    2011 3 Marcell Dareus Defensive tackle
    2012 10 Stephon Gilmore Cornerback
    2013 16 EJ Manuel Quarterback

    Whitner was not a good pick at #8 even though he's had a long career. There are several All-Pros taken behind him from 8 to 21. Marshawn Lynch left because he was really a head case. Best thing for Lynch is to be on team like Seattle because he has a very fragile psyche. CJ Spiller at #9? A joke. And although they had no choice but to take Dareus at #3, the guys that followed like Patrick Peterson and JJ Watt would scream for a do over.

    Eric Wood was a good choice where he was taken. But how can you swing and miss this many times?
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    Yes, yes, yes. I knew all that. I was just yanking the Bills fan's chain. Still a stupid name, though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bills#cite_note-5

    Once the AFL–NFL merger took effect, the Bills became the second NFL team to represent the city; they followed the Buffalo All-Americans, a charter member of the league. Buffalo had been left out of the league since the All-Americans (by that point renamed the Bisons) folded in 1929; the Bills were no less than the third professional non-NFL team to compete in the city before the merger, following the Indians/Tigers of the early 1940s and another team named the Bills in the late 1940s.

    Buffalo’s team in the All-America Football Conference (AAFC) in 1946 was the Bisons. In 1947 a contest was held to rename the team, which was owned by James Breuil of the Frontier Oil Company. The winning entry suggested Bills, reflecting on the famous western frontiersman, Buffalo Bill Cody. Carrying the “frontier” theme further, the winning contestant further offered that the team was being supported by Frontier Oil and was “opening a new frontier in sports in Western New York.”
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    Actually to reflect where they are they should have been the Buffalo Outhouses.
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    Abominable Snowmen would've been perfect. Their slogan could've been, "Super Bowl champs? Not Yeti."
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    The AFCE east is too interbred/interhired. (Even with our our hires sometimes...though never coaches).
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    Their name has always fit.

    Boy I Love Losing Superbowls
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    I would not be surprised if Belichick even talked to Schwartz about this possibility for Pepper.
    When Belichick didn't choose him as his DC, it was only a matter of time until he found a place with a chance to advance or gave up on advancing.

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    So you are saying he wanted to go from a division contender to a basement contender?

    If he left for a promotion, or for the possibility of promotion to DC, I would see it as a move on his part, even if it were to the Bills. But to suggest otherwise does not seem to make sense to me.

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