Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by IcyPatriot, Nov 3, 2012.
Pelosi holds secret fundraiser with Islamist groups | The Daily Caller
This needs to get out into the mainstream media asap.....
GEE....I wonder why they had to do it secretly?
The Frikkn Mulslim BRotherhood.....nice group!
Why would any American sit down with these scumbags jihad groups who support sharia law?
Oh wait....It was Nancy "Stinky bum" Pelosi?....that explains EVERYTHING!!!!!!
Listen! Listen to the sound of crickets.
If you read something from Daily Caller, red flags should fly as the whole story is seldom reported..
There is a segment of our population who seek to demonize certain people, because of their affiliations.. CAIR is a frequent target of the hard right.. perhaps the FBI and CIA should be notified of this activity..
BTW this fundraiser was not secret, if you paid you could attend... it was hosted by Keith Ellison and Andre Carson... Daily Caller is parroting islamophobia of the hard right...
We NEED Islamaphobia/sharia-phobia....to an extent anyway.
More anti-semitic blood money flowing in to the Democrat party. I also wonder how many US soldiers have died because of CAIR money.
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Never be surprised at what that "Rich Old Bag Pelosi" will come up with, she is one of the most partisian ruthless vermin in politics today.
A whole lot fewer that those young men and women who died because of Bush's lies....
CAIR is an Islamist group now?
Yes, the DailyCaller (what an irrelevant paper first of all) is so desperate they're portraying the nation's largest Islamic-American organization as being a terrorist group.
'Ties with Hamas, Islamists'
Show me the money first, honey. CAIR is a legitimate organization.
Often the organizations are legit ... some of the people in them not exactly.
CAIR is absolutely in bed with Hamas.
Of course since Hamas' goal is to kill as many Jews as possible, I can see how to you they're "legitimate".
Of course I'm not surprised Pelosi was the same ***** that put a member of CAIR on the anti-semitic task force.
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Democrats have a John in their party.
Would it be legit to go and call the Democrats a party with links to prostitution abroad?
At the end of May 2010, the number of American fatalities was reported to have reached 1,000. By September 2012, the total number passed 2,000. More than two-thirds of those deaths have occurred since the American military presence in Afghanistan was doubled under President Barack Obama in 2009.
I want you to read his post carefully and consider what you replied with again.
You haven't proven anything about your assertion.
However, since you advocate death to all Muslims I guess I can't expect any better from you.
Apples and oranges Doc ... a horrible comparison.
If you think none of those people have indirect links to terrorists then there's nothing left to the discussion IMO - I don't buy it - then again I've never met a politician I trusted either.
How is it apples and oranges? I haven't seen any proof of anyone having ties to Hamas, etc, let alone the fact that an organization with a bad apple does not a terrorist group make.
A large political organization can't be defined by the actions of a member.
You can start with the FBI:
Council on American
There's more on that site and elsewhere.
Hm, that does seem pretty suspicious. But again, if you note, it's mostly guilt by association.
You can't hold an organizations liable for its donators, really. The responses page eased my distaste someone but I remain a little worried of any politician willing to take the hit of associating with an admirably shady organization.
So, I dont know to be honest. Guess I'll excuse myself of this one.
It is also self edited as is everything in Wikipedia..
The issue with CAIR is that the half wits.. Pam Geller, Robert Spence and Michelle Bachman are on that bandwagon, as are a bunch of other extremists who love to breed hysteria...
This may provide more context..
Fact Checker - The King hearings: Is CAIR a 'terrorist organization'?
You really do not know the truth about them, but the premise of this thread is that it was somehow some secret rundraiser that Pelosi attended is false.... America has a long history of demonizing those they do not understand.
75% of American Jews support the Democrats. The Jews know their interests better than the non-Jews, so we don't need any patronizing by the American conservative movement.
More troops died because of contributions to George Bush than because of CAIR. In fact, CAIR condemned 9/11 within hours of the attack and applauded the killing of Osama bin Laden. CAIR has been consistently anti-terrorist.
But, just as there are Republicans who talk of legitimate rape or call a rape pregnancy a gift form God or who even commit rape and murder, there certainly have been members of CAIR who have violated the values of that organization.
The primary critics of CAIR are from the same party who want to regulate womens reproductive rights, deny gays equal rights, legalize discrimination against minorities, disenfranchise minorities, and rah rah rah every time our troops are put into harm's way. In other words, CAIR is not the real danger. It lies closer to home.
Unfair rhetoric is no substitute for facts. Read about CAIR before posting. It's a group that has been quick to condemn terrorist acts (9/11 and others), applauded the killing of Osama bin Laden, and has few if any direct links to radical groups. But, the fact that you would say that we need Islamophobia (which you say in your next post) says it all. That's like saying we need racism or homophobia or evangelicophobia. Surely you don't believe that.
In every political organization, there are members on the end of the spectrum who are not "legit"... whether it be Eric Rudolph or Tim McVeigh on one side or the left wing anarchists... I suspect the same for this organization.
You cannot paint any organization with a broad brush because of a few..
Did you miss the FBI part of my response above?
Would you classify that as a political response on their part?
Here's a different link as my Wikipedia link was discredited in this thread.
Why would the FBI have a "relationship" with a religious organization, do they have one with Westboro Baptist Church or other religious extremist group????
Do not understand the rational for that at all...
Their people are strictly forbidden from having any contact with CAIR.
Like I told Doc above ... there is no way to further the discussion ... have you looked into it?
For myself ... I trust that the FBI has very good reasons for their policy.
The leadership at the top of the CAIR organization has a history of links to Hamas and HLF and GRF both of which have terrorist organization connections.
I bet number is reversed among actual practicing Jews, maybe Jon Stewart and Sarah Silverman speak for you and you follow their lead, I and most don't.
Your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs are nothing but bold faced lies that you constantly spewing here that you get away with because you're a mod, you are the most hateful poster here. You stereotype like no one else.
I am a critic of CAIR, because they want to bring harm to my family here and have donated to violence that has happened to my family in Israel. You love them because you obviously care more about your party than you do human beings.
You are aware that they tried to legally distance themselves from the Holy Land Foundation scandal, however the court refused to do that...
Yet they are still working with them and appearing with them...
Really? You never struck me as the type to trust the FBI. They're just cops on the federal level. Sure they do lots of good things, but there's plenty of rotten apples in there making rotten, politically-motivated policies, don't you think?
Can you show me where I said I trust them? All I am ssying is the age old saying where there is smoke there is fire. But I am a forum vet ... I know if Pelosi was Boehner... this thread would go 180. Protection of party trumps inspection of story..
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