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  1. Patters

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    Forgive the clever title, but I'd like to draw the righties attention to something. Several of the righties think I am unfair--quick to criticize their personal attacks and slow to criticize those of the liberals. I don't think that's true, though I'm sure I've made some mistakes. But, here's what I want to point out to righties:

    Many of you are quickly offended when you feel I have treated you unequally. You feel that I am dishonest and sometimes use my power as moderator to take sides. Well, that is similar to how black people, gay people, immigrants, and others feel, but on a more regular basis. The same kind of prejudice that you feel I direct at you is what minorities feel lenders, employers, landlords, stores, and so on direct at them.

    Imagine if you had to put up with someone unfair several times or more each week. Wouldn't it get to you? Wouldn't you think something should be done? That's what civil rights is about.

    You are extra sensitive to discrimination because you are not used to being discriminated against. Like I said, I try not be biased as a moderator, but if I am, I hope it at least makes you more understanding of those minorities who are fighting for equality and civil rights.
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    Patters is unfair... progressives on the board get shameless behavior flags and I have yet to see one for a "conservative"
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    Patters is unfair, product of the drive by media, Washington Post, New York times. Dan Rather, perky Katie Couric, Ted kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid......
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    It's amazing how you can be so superior and condenscending.

    And, to be sure, I am a single straight white male - the single most discriminated sector of society.

    Fire a black or hispanic, you're labeled a racist.

    Fire a white female and you're sexist.

    Fire a white male - good for you.
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    #24 Jersey

    You aren't unfair, you're just wrong about everything . . . or most things, anyway :)
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    Whitey is the "Discriminated" now, wait till the Cynthia McKinney's and Belafontes really go to work on them, then you will see some REAL racism.

    The "White Mother F-ckers" are in for it. "Whaaaaaaaa, mommy their picking on me":(
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    There is a lot of truth to that. Twenty and thirty something white males are the last to get a job interview, all other things being equal. Its called reverse discrimination and its a real phenomenon.
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    Chevy, my post is a tongue-in-cheek. While the message is serious, I wasn't expecting the righties to respond with thanks.

    Even if you think you're among those most discriminated against, then you should be able to understand where different groups are coming from when they say that they too face discrimination. Perhaps if white men like yourself joined with blacks, gays, and other groups that are fighting discrimination, we could get something done.
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    #24 Jersey

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I want to discriminate I should be able to. If I own a business and want no white or no blacks or no gays then that's what I should be able to do. If I can hire enough people due to this, it's my loss but it should be my right to hire whoever I want.
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    Mine was only partially TiC ... And the key isn't some public show of unity and whatnot ... It's for all of us to live by the tenet "I'll take care of my business, you take care of yours, and neither of us need to burden society." That will keep us all far too busy to be racist.
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    I noticed the great Patters decided to close MGColby's threads about mikey , but when mikey, NEM, AAB or other various liberals attack people threads aren't closed, matter of fact they are quickly defended by Patters usually.

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    That's the point of this thread. You are very sensitive to what you perceive is discrimination, so imagine how other gorups -- gays, blacks, Latinos, immigrants, and so on -- feel when they are discriminated against. Perhaps now that you've experienced what you perceive is prejudice, you'll be more sensitive to these issues.
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    So now you're teaching us a lesson about being "sensitive" by acting in a prejudiced manner towards those of us who have opinions that differ from yours.

    I think it's time for you to resign if you're honest. You've overstepped your moderators boundaries. Get someone to replace you and go back to bing a regular poster. Your admission, however subtly, that you are, in effect, acting in a prejudiced way as a moderator, disqualifies you from the job...I don't know why you'd want to do it in the first place.
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    Whaaaaaaaaa, mommy he called me a bad name, sob, blubber splutter.
    :bricks:

    Two Liberals Over Coffee:
    "Bush is a f-cking slimey chimp scum bag white mother f-cking drunken pig coward b astard"

    "You can say that again"

    "OK, Bush is a f-cking slimey chimp scum bag white mother f-cking pig coward b astard"

    "Thank You"
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    Thats awesome!!!!! You forgot drunken.
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    AQM

    First you post garbage from junk websites and than holler your old crazy head that it is "documented" facts, BS the crap is debunked as soon as you type in those addresses, and than when you are called on your lies you run, never to be heard again in that thread, than that is when you will conveniently start another thread with a cartoon, photo shop or you stupid quote from Roosevelt. You are so predictable.

    Put your foil hat on, download FatEd Shultz to your Ipod, crawl under the desk and pray today isn't the day it is all going to end.
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    Yeah, that Roosevelt. What a piece of crap for saying things like that.
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    PATTERS,
    Not fair, not fair, in another thread Pujo called me a "blackguardianism" what the f-ck is that?

    My wife says it means "A ss Hole"

    I'm a Neo Con, call me anything you want, us Neo Con's can take it, the poor little sensitive Neo Libs are very fragile so we should respect their sensitivity, they are "Kind And Caring", "oh look dear, a butterfly" :bricks:
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    Actually, wistah, what I said is that he's sensitive to "what he perceives is discrimination." I'm quite confident I apply the rules fairly, and have certainly closed as many threads or issued as many warnings or sent as many PMs to liberals as I have to conservatives. And when someone points out I've applied an uneven hand, as PFIEL did yesterday, I look over the evidence and quickly correct my mistake. My goal as moderator is to help the forum get past the b.s., not to punish people, and sometimes a warning or closing a thread makes it easier for people to return to substantive discussions.
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    Drunken:
    No, it's in there :rocker:
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    I don't care if you close a thread because the tone is out of hand...that's up to you. I am against you being condescending to posters by trying to teach us a lesson in "discrimination" by closing threads or even using the closing of threads as a tool to teach someone a lesson. I don't question your confidence in your fairness.
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    Does Ted Williams close threads?
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    I dunno, Boy...
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    I don't believe I've ever closed a thread unless it was a pi$$ing contest of personal insults or it was a thread started to bash someone. I moved Harry's thread, about Asian women, to the General Forum, but that's the first time I've done that.
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    Patters you rascal, I didn't even notice that, how come you did that Pat, that story was in the news today somewhere, what went through your mind to make you move a story about some people who were developing larger breasts than they normally have.

    You liberals fascinate me, I still can't figure out how your minds work.

    I feel honored being the author of a post that you moved "for the first time".
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    I don't have a problem with that. I agree with a lot of what you say, and disagree with a lot, too. I have a problem with the way you suggested that some here on the board haven't experienced some sort of discrimination, as if that were necessarily some sort of requirement to having an understanding of what it means or feels like. Everyone has been discriminated against for one reason or another. I'm sure you have been and so have I (If you ever went to a game at Yankee stadium, you know what I mean), so we are all aware of what it means.
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    Wistah, I started this thread intending it to be tongue in cheek. As I said to Chevy, I didn't post it expecting the conservatives to respond with "Thanks Patters. Now I see what you're talking about." That said, there was a serious point. I do think that some people in this forum believe that discrimination is okay, is a non issue, or is dishonest.
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    Not necessary. They do a pretty good job of damming themselves here just by expressing their opinions.
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    And damn how they hate it. Maybe now they will begin to understand... Naaaaah!
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    Plenty of people - make that everybody discriminates on a regular basis and it's not necessarily a bad thing. The problem is when does it become a moral or legal violation. I think it's wrong to do so based on appearance whether it be racial, weight, height, eye color, etc., but there are clearly situations - sometimes extreme or socially acceptable ones - where discrimination is warranted or required. For instance, you wouldn't want to cast Ben Stiller to portray Martin Luther King in a movie (although I'd definitely pay to see that) and you would never hire a 6'-5", 320 lb. guy with a peg leg to be a roofer.

    A more gray area is something I do all the time. I have a small construction company and image is very important to me. I refuse to hire anybody who wears baggy jeans that hang half-way down his a ss or who has tattoos on the face or neck and national flags on the clothes are right out, unless it's an American one. Stars-n-bars are right out! Now, it just so happens that these rules tend to omit certain groups of people more often than others. I know that, for the sake of keeping competetive, the customers comfort level and trust in us is more important, especially when I refuse to hire illegal aliens when others don't care. My point is, I wonder when I'm going to get sued for these unwritten but enforced rules of discrimination? I don't want to discriminate against a group, just how my company os perceived. And so you know, my crews include a gay woman, Liberian-American, 2 Puerto Ricans, an amputee, a Jesus freak, an anarchist and three republicans. I also think there's a couple of closet democrats, but I can't prove it.
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