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The Jets OLBs are inexperienced setting the edge. Maroney will break big gains, and Dillon will wear out Vilma late (see Bettis AFC divisional game). The Jet D will remember this pounding all season. I expect a brutal assault by the Pats O, which will allow the Pats D (Seymour and Harrison) and pass game another week to recover from the "emotional" impact of the Branch departure. Oelhoffen and Hamilton will hold up well, but the Jets LBers will betray them. My only concern in this game is Seymour reacting immaturely to his friend's departure, setting a bad, unemotional tone for the Defense. Hopefully the return of Bruschi can pick up the emotional slack.
 
PonyExpress said:
.... My only concern in this game is Seymour reacting immaturely to his friend's departure, setting a bad, unemotional tone for the Defense...


Seymour has nothing to pout over, it was he who gave Branch the recipe for this year's holdout crisis.
 
PonyExpress said:
The Jets OLBs are inexperienced setting the edge. Maroney will break big gains, and Dillon will wear out Vilma late (see Bettis AFC divisional game). The Jet D will remember this pounding all season. I expect a brutal assault by the Pats O, which will allow the Pats D (Seymour and Harrison) and pass game another week to recover from the "emotional" impact of the Branch departure. Oelhoffen and Hamilton will hold up well, but the Jets LBers will betray them. My only concern in this game is Seymour reacting immaturely to his friend's departure, setting a bad, unemotional tone for the Defense. Hopefully the return of Bruschi can pick up the emotional slack.


The running game will be a force Sunday afternoon! Seymour will show up and play hard as will the rest of the team. I'd say they'll want to win more than ever now. You think the Pats need incentive to get past the recent issues? How's this for incentive?

The rest of the NFL says...

"TOO BAD NE...BOO HOO! Lost a 'big one' did ya? GOOD! Hope you suck wind and lose the rest of your games this year...you luckier than ****, three time SB winning bastards! You don't deserve another shot at the title! It's our turn now!
 
I hope you're right about the running game. Question though, who has a better run defense, Jets or Buffalo ? This isn't a smart ass question, it's a legit question. The Jets have some talented defenders, but then again, so does Buffalo. So if anybody has some insight, who has a better run defense ? If the Jets have a run defense that is not as good as Buffalo's, Then you are indeed correct, they should be able to pummel the Jets on the ground.
 
scott99 said:
I hope you're right about the running game. Question though, who has a better run defense, Jets or Buffalo ? This isn't a smart ass question, it's a legit question. The Jets have some talented defenders, but then again, so does Buffalo. So if anybody has some insight, who has a better run defense ? If the Jets have a run defense that is not as good as Buffalo's, Then you are indeed correct, they should be able to pummel the Jets on the ground.

Buffalo had the 2nd worst rushing defense in the league last year, allowing 2205 yards and 4.5 ypc. So perhaps we need to wait and see how we fare against a good rushing defense before we proclaim how great our running game is.

The Jets also had one of the worst rushing defenses last year, allowing 2185 yards, albeit with a more respectable 3.9ypc.

Source:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/tmstats2005.htm

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Team Defense
(sorted by points allowed)

                           |------ PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----|
                        PT  CMP  ATT   YD   YPP  TD INT  RSH   YD   YPR  TD
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chicago Bears          202  314  550  2872  5.2  10  24  443  1637  3.7   9
Indianapolis Colts     247  342  509  3151  6.2  17  18  398  1762  4.4   9
Pittsburgh Steelers    258  315  549  3168  5.8  15  15  402  1368  3.4  10
Denver Broncos         258  344  613  3643  5.9  20  20  344  1363  4.0  10
Carolina Panthers      259  306  528  3057  5.8  15  23  408  1465  3.6   9
Jacksonville Jaguars   269  285  482  2946  6.1  22  19  434  1709  3.9   4
Seattle Seahawks       271  331  571  3559  6.2  18  16  420  1510  3.6   5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers   274  275  477  2929  6.1  15  17  438  1515  3.5  10
Washington Redskins    293  291  534  3081  5.8  15  16  411  1686  4.1  15
Baltimore Ravens       299  296  526  2964  5.6  18  12  431  1591  3.7   8
Cleveland Browns       301  278  470  2867  6.1  19  15  527  2202  4.2  11
Dallas Cowboys         308  270  494  3083  6.2  18  15  414  1731  4.2  13
San Diego Chargers     312  338  566  3599  6.4  20  10  386  1349  3.5  14
New York Giants        314  330  581  3584  6.2  20  17  428  1656  3.9  12
Miami Dolphins         317  323  549  3307  6.0  23  14  480  1771  3.7  11
Kansas City Chiefs     325  325  558  3679  6.6  25  16  383  1570  4.1  11
New England Patriots   338  296  526  3703  7.0  25  10  437  1580  3.6  11
Atlanta Falcons        341  320  526  3137  6.0  18  16  438  2063  4.7  18
Minnesota Vikings      344  318  533  3332  6.2  23  24  462  1841  4.0  14
Green Bay Packers      344  253  430  2680  6.2  22  10  504  2010  4.0  10
Detroit Lions          345  294  486  3118  6.4  19  19  488  2040  4.2  15
Cincinnati Bengals     350  325  518  3569  6.9  21  31  429  1850  4.3  16
New York Jets          355  285  462  2755  6.0  17  21  554  2185  3.9  19
Buffalo Bills          367  314  502  3291  6.6  19  17  489  2205  4.5  22
Oakland Raiders        383  296  486  3243  6.7  18   5  507  2049  4.0  18
Arizona Cardinals      387  302  490  3097  6.3  17  15  411  1632  4.0  22
Philadelphia Eagles    388  298  502  3323  6.6  24  17  506  1883  3.7  15
New Orleans Saints     398  242  418  2849  6.8  20  10  503  2145  4.3  16
Tennessee Titans       421  296  470  3216  6.8  33   9  449  1894  4.2  12
San Francisco 49ers    428  374  576  4427  7.7  28  16  486  1832  3.8  19
St. Louis Rams         429  314  507  3424  6.8  26  13  459  2178  4.8  22
Houston Texans         431  304  469  3521  7.5  24   7  506  2303  4.5  21
 
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I just have this gut feeling, Maroney is going to take it to the house sunday.

Did I mention Maroney is on my Fantasy team?
 
groundgame said:
Seymour has nothing to pout over, it was he who gave Branch the recipe for this year's holdout crisis.

Maybe that's why he's pouting .... feels a little guilty ... maybe? :confused:
 
Kasmir said:
Buffalo had the 2nd worst rushing defense in the league last year, allowing 2205 yards and 4.5 ypc. So perhaps we need to wait and see how we fare against a good rushing defense before we proclaim how great our running game is.

The Jets also had one of the worst rushing defenses last year, allowing 2185 yards, albeit with a more respectable 3.9ypc.

Source:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/tmstats2005.htm


Thanks for the stats. I guess that answers my question. Unfortunately for the Jets, if they play run defense like last year, Dillon & Maroney (& Faulk) may have huge days. Last years stats don't have a bearing on what could happen Sunday (New coach, new defensive scheme, new players, etc), but I don't think the Jets have made enough changes of their team to be considerably better than last years defense. The run game may be the difference. I do think the Pats offensive mindset may change a little if Gabriel (and possibly Jackson) play on Sunday. Once the pass option shows itself to be dependable, this offense will be scary. Until then, pound the ball.
 
JR4 said:
Maybe that's why he's pouting .... feels a little guilty ... maybe? :confused:

Let it go. Richard Seymour is a professional and he will be ready at the bell.
 
I'm sure that the jets will be looking to take away our running game in a big way as that appears to be our O strength right now. You can bet Mangini will focus on that. It will be sweet if Brady can use the passing game to loosen up their D!
 
scott99 said:
Once the pass option shows itself to be dependable, this offense will be scary. Until then, pound the ball.


And to state the obvious, if they can pound the ball well, it certainly opens up the passing game and play actions.......
 
Dont get too overconfident. We'll problably be losing 14 points due to all the Pats will kick the crap out of the Jets, threads..
 
Kasmir said:
Buffalo had the 2nd worst rushing defense in the league last year, allowing 2205 yards and 4.5 ypc. So perhaps we need to wait and see how we fare against a good rushing defense before we proclaim how great our running game is.

The Jets also had one of the worst rushing defenses last year, allowing 2185 yards, albeit with a more respectable 3.9ypc.

Source:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/tmstats2005.htm
last yr's stats mean nothing. last year the pats run offense sucked. I think we all can see it is drastically improved.

Corey Dillon is gonna hurt some jets tomorrow
 
Patsfanin Philly said:
And to state the obvious, if they can pound the ball well, it certainly opens up the passing game and play actions.......
unless they can't pass protect and matt light gets burnt and the o-lineman don't switch off correctly, then play actions means very little.

pass protection is a huge key for tomorrow and i expect they worked on it quite a bt and you won't see the errors of the first half of last weeks game.
 
Patsfanin Philly said:
And to state the obvious, if they can pound the ball well, it certainly opens up the passing game and play actions.......
unless they can't pass protect and matt light gets burnt and the o-lineman don't switch off correctly, then play actions means very little.

pass protection is a huge key for tomorrow and i expect they worked on it quite a bt and you won't see the errors of the first half of last weeks game.
 
scott99 said:
Thanks for the stats. I guess that answers my question. Unfortunately for the Jets, if they play run defense like last year, Dillon & Maroney (& Faulk) may have huge days. Last years stats don't have a bearing on what could happen Sunday (New coach, new defensive scheme, new players, etc), but I don't think the Jets have made enough changes of their team to be considerably better than last years defense. The run game may be the difference. I do think the Pats offensive mindset may change a little if Gabriel (and possibly Jackson) play on Sunday. Once the pass option shows itself to be dependable, this offense will be scary. Until then, pound the ball.

It doesn't answer your question all the way because the Bills had some tough injuries last year that caused those stats. When the team falls apart due to injuries, that is not their fault. The Jest were just pain bad. Even with Abraham they stunk. I would not be suprised to see both Dillon and Lomo go for 100.
 
groundgame said:
Seymour has nothing to pout over, it was he who gave Branch the recipe for this year's holdout crisis.

I agree. More pointedly, Big Sey may be less bothered by a broken heart than by a guilty conscience, because he probably never figured that the course he set DB on would result in DB being gone.

I also think it says something about DB's character that he didn't call Tom as he was being traded, as Tom revealed this week. Kind of sh*76y on his part, given how much Tom pined and lobbied for him.

As someone once said, team sports don't build character, they reveal character.

QB12
 
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