Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by pats1, Aug 3, 2007.
Re: Pats try out 35-year old P Berger
Hehehe, be the ball Josh, feel the ball, nanananana....
Seems like last year we got the idea that you can never have too many punters on call.
Seems to me, though, that you can.
The brain trust never ceases to confuse me.
It must have been a tough pick when the Pats had decide between Miller and Sauerbrun. Like Kevin Walter before them, the Pats opted for dependability (Miller) over the the stats potential.
They should have kept Sauerbrun. That was a blunder.
I'd rather have Baugher.
What are Tom Tupa and Rich Camarillo up to?
I agree. Baugher and Sauerbrun.
If Josh Miller isn't the Pats' punter, then the terrorists have won.
We can all sleep tonight, at least it wasn't Ken Walter in for a tryout.
So that explains the mysterious prayer offering at the shrine!
I bet K Tony Franklin still has some kick left...What is he like 65 years old now?
Didn't they try to keep Sauerbrun and he filed a grievance and won? Can't do much about that....
Does anyone know the status on Josh Miller? I thought when Sauebrun left that Miller had the job....
Josh is coming off rehab for a bad shoulder. He's reportedly been a bit rusty, but not so much so that he isn't competitive in camp. Danny Baugher had a great season in NFLE and is reportedly doing well against Josh, though I don't think either has a clear lead at this point. Tom Malone has a strong leg, but he was the lowest ranked punter in NFLE after coming off his own rehab. He reportedly had slipped in his technique trying to compensate for an injury before he went to rehab. Seely will try to coach him up and make him competitive, he can hang around with his NFLE exemption for a bit and may yet get into the running. I see Berger as insurance and incentive for the three in camp, no big deal.
They tried. Sauerbrun wanted to be in Denver, fought, and won his free agency. Something to do with "rights of first refusal." I don't understand the full details, but it appeared that the front office dropped the ball on that one.
Yeah I definitely think they should have kept Sauerbrun. Oh well, at least its not Ken Walter.
A punter is about to go from "day to day" to injured reserve.
Oh no! Were you seeing what I was seeing -- someone who had a slow release, couldn't place his kicks and outkicked the coverage?
He played great and saved their butts in the SD game, didn't he?
But he also wished to be in Denver...Let's bring in a few more...
He didn't shank anything that I recall -- but in other games I remember that he did.
(Perhaps it's all relative -- if you're used to Ken Walter, even Sauerbrun looks great. )
From what I remember, when they included the 'rights of first refusal', they didn't get some kind of signed statement, required by the NFLPA or the CBA, that Sauerbrun had read and understood it, so the team's rights were deemed invalid. Or something.
You can consider it a screw-up or you can get more devious and maybe they didn't think Sauerbrun would have signed the statement, so they tried to slip it past him. Who knows. Probably a screw-up, so many of these contracts are signed off at oh-dark-hundred while they're trying to get an injury-replacement player on an airplane for tomorrow's practice.
OTOH, I'd rather have Miller than Sauerbrun, he's more accurate and before his injury was plenty reliable. Even more, I'd rather have a strong young leg like Baugher, who could be the punter for years, if he can (a) place them better and (b) deliver in the crunch. Big questions, but the same questions whenever you start a young guy.
I remember one kick that caused BB to dress him down on the sidelines in very animated fashion, something rarely seen. He outkicked the coverage leading to a big return.
Probably a little "grassy knoll" here, but what if the Pats are planning on going with the kid, Baugher, and are looking at emergency replacements out there should the kid falter at some point this season? They could just be trying to cover their bases so they're not caught unprepared should they need a punter in a hurry.
Makes sense either way, if they're concerned about Miller's health. Baugher might prove himself enough in preseason that he wouldn't make waivers -- another team might ditch their punter for him. On the one hand, it's risky for another team to dump their punter for a new guy off waivers and expect him to assimilate quickly with his snapper and holder, but OTOH, punters don't have to learn much of a playbook.
I think this spells the end of Malone. Let Baugher learn from two veterans and see if he can use their teachings to his advantage and win the punter job. Speculation but what else do we really have to go on?
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