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Pats sign WR Lavelle Hawkins


Whosdat? LOL. Well the Patriots offseason overhaul of the WR position continues. Curious that they signed him to a 2 year deal though. Maybe they like him just a little bit more than Jenkins or Jones?

I think there are a few things going on here.

With Dobson being drafted, I don't see Jenkins making this team.

I tend to think that with Josh Boyce and Edelman both nursing foot injuries (but should be ok by camp) and Donald Jones not a shoo-in either Hawkins is being brought in to compete at the 5th WR position/KR specialist.
 
Wes who? :rocker:
 
I've never heard of his intelligence getting questioned. He could be a good Markus Wheaton consolation prize.

Josh Boyce is a Markus Wheaton consolation prize.:cool:
 
I think there are a few things going on here.

With Dobson being drafted, I don't see Jenkins making this team.

I tend to think that with Josh Boyce and Edelman both nursing foot injuries (but should be ok by camp) and Donald Jones not a shoo-in either Hawkins is being brought in to compete at the 5th WR position/KR specialist.

Yep. Typically, at this point in the offseason, the guys the Pats sign are usually signed to throw into the competition at camp. If they stick, then they have a spot on the team. That's essentially what Hawkins is.
 
Reading between the lines, the Pats have really been hurt by the lack of legit WR depth in recent years. We relied on Deion Branch to be a third wideout in playoff games. Tiquan Underwood played real snaps. Last year we had no one behind Welker, Edelman and Lloyd, and we were really limited when Edelman was injured. Even more embarrassing, none of the receivers could return kicks, forcing us to use McCourty.

Jones and Hawkins are similar-caliber players, though Jones is probably better and more physical. They're both better than Deion Branch at this stage of his career, or Donte Stallworth off the street. Even Jenkins is probably an upgrade over Branch. The two rookies hopefully will be. Four of these new guys -- Hawkins, Jones, Dobson and Boyce -- are faster than the wideouts we had last year.

BB's thought process seems to be to try to upgrade those matchups against nickel and dime CBs by putting legit NFL receivers, if not stars, at the end of the roster. It's dull, but it makes sense.
 
Curious that they signed him to a 2 year deal though. Maybe they like him just a little bit more than Jenkins or Jones?

I think Jones signed a 3-year deal. Anyway, a 2-year deal without significant guaranteed money is essentially a team option for a 2nd year. I think players on minimal deals would rather have them for 1 year. If they do well, hit FA on a high. If they suck, they get cut either way. Don't want to do well and have to play a 2nd year on a minimal deal.
 
LOCKS
Amendola
Dobson
Boyce

LIKELY
Edelman

FIGHTING FOR 0-2 SPOTS
Moe
Jones
Hawkins
Jenkins

That's my take. It's not unheard of we carry 6 WRs if they contribute on ST and some are developmental. It's also not unheard of we carry only 4. Will be intriguing storyline come summer.
 
LOCKS
Amendola
Dobson
Boyce

LIKELY
Edelman

FIGHTING FOR 0-2 SPOTS
Moe
Jones
Hawkins
Jenkins

That's my take. It's not unheard of we carry 6 WRs if they contribute on ST and some are developmental. It's also not unheard of we carry only 4. Will be intriguing storyline come summer.

No love for Slater, or were you trying to avoid ST-only players?
 
Darn. I thought we got Andrew Hawkins the speed merchant from the Bengals.
 
No love for Slater, or were you trying to avoid ST-only players?

Slater's roster spot is secure, but I have a lot of trouble allocating a spot from the WR group for him. Him being denoted as a WR is rather arbitrary, and I would wager/hope he factors little into Belichick's evaluation of the position. Frankly, he's played a lot more snaps on defense. If I'm going to call a guy a wide receiver, he better have more than one catch in a five year career.
 
No love for Slater, or were you trying to avoid ST-only players?

Yea no way Slater is cut. Even if he were, it would leave $1.3 in dead money and thats not good. Next year he counts for $1.9m in cap space and if cut would leave zero in dead money. A lot more reasonable.
 
This is actually more stable than last year when we had Welker, Lloyd and Edelman. We had lots of players in and out, competing for the 0-2 roster positions.

LOCKS
Amendola
Dobson
Boyce

LIKELY
Edelman

FIGHTING FOR 0-2 SPOTS
Moe
Jones
Hawkins
Jenkins

That's my take. It's not unheard of we carry 6 WRs if they contribute on ST and some are developmental. It's also not unheard of we carry only 4. Will be intriguing storyline come summer.
 
This is actually more stable than last year when we had Welker, Lloyd and Edelman. We had lots of players in and out, competing for the 0-2 roster positions.

Last year:

Locks-welker, lloyd, edelman

0-3 spots - branch, gaffney, stallworth, ebert

Plus gronk and Hernandez weren't coming off recent surgeries. Felt pretty stable, banking on a lot of rookies and injury risks this year.
 
Slater's roster spot is secure, but I have a lot of trouble allocating a spot from the WR group for him. Him being denoted as a WR is rather arbitrary, and I would wager/hope he factors little into Belichick's evaluation of the position. Frankly, he's played a lot more snaps on defense. If I'm going to call a guy a wide receiver, he better have more than one catch in a five year career.

The real question is why you consider Slater a WR.

The team lists him as a WR. I was wondering why you didn't. Wasn't sure if you didn't consider him a lock to make the roster or not, but your answer suffices.
 
The team lists him as a WR. I was wondering why you didn't. Wasn't sure if you didn't consider him a lock to make the roster or not, but your answer suffices.

Patriots.com is one thing - I'd be very curious to see how it is internally for the team when they draw up the roster. Again, it is semantics - because no matter how you cut it, Slater is a lock to make the team for ST alone and he doesn't serve any depth purpose at WR.
 
Patriots.com is one thing - I'd be very curious to see how it is internally for the team when they draw up the roster. Again, it is semantics - because no matter how you cut it, Slater is a lock to make the team for ST alone and he doesn't serve any depth purpose at WR.

FWIW, I agree. The team, internally, probably just lists him as "ST".
 
FWIW, I agree. The team, internally, probably just lists him as "ST".

He practices with the WR during TC, he's lined up at WR during games. So while he is definitely a ST, he is still considered a WR.
 
Probably not ,but....

Any relation to former Pat CB Artrell Hawkins?
 
Those 53 player lists are blowing up daily ... :rofl:
 


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