Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Pats726, Apr 6, 2006.
Pats signed oldest Gramatica brother....heard on EEI
holy crap that's funny!
That's really funny. I was just joking about that a while back. Saying maybe he can blow out his knee like little brother did. I don't see him making it out of camp with a job.
He is the one who hurt himself jumping up and down after a made kick!
When is the last time he even played in the league? I think this is an insurance signing, I think they are going to draft a kicker and go with him.
The one that played for the Bucs, Martin? If true, it looks like we'll get a kicker through the draft.
Puke. Vomit. Hurl.
Hopefully this is just a temporary move. Though I guess he was a solid K for awhile. Then he just got in a funk and never got out of it.
Still .... shudder.
I just think its for competition. They will draft a guy and let them duke it out in camp. Don't be sold on the fact that he will be our guy come game one. I still can't beleive they let Adam walk.
Man you stole my thunder. I feel exactly the same way.
No, it was Bill Gramatica that played for the Cardinals that blew his knee out.
That was his little brother, Bill, who kicked for the Cardinals. Both Gramatica's were out of the league last year.
From the Patriots.com:
Gramatica had surgery on his lower abdomen early in 2004 and some believe that contributed to his struggles kicking the football because it affected his accuracy and power. HeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s now believed to be fully recovered from his injury, so Gramatica will have a shot to win the kicking job in training camp. The Patriots will likely bring in a young kicker to compete with the veteran but if Gramatica can revert back to his old form, New England could have a steal on their hands.
Interesting, I still can not envision him as the kicker, but at least maybe he could not be as bad as we remember him as.
Wow this guys statistics are horrid.............I think this is one move that will come back to haunt Belly big time. I'd take my chances with Josh Brown of the Hawks before this guy.
He is not our answer at kicker and I don't think that's the plan. You need some sort of kicker for camp. One thing this guy does have is a monster leg.
Through 2002 he was very good, it's just a matter of if he's healthy and can get back to that level. If not, it's not like he'll be the only kicker in camp.
Yikes. Morten Anderson isn't available? Seriously he'd still be better, and he's the only player that is allowed to wear an old school two-bar facemask.
If you'd recall, Josh Brown was run out of Pittsburgh due to his inconsistency in bad conditions.
Probably not a good quality for a New England Patriot kicker...
That's Kris Brown. Both are former Huskers though.
Was it Kris?
My bad--I'm usually much more diligent than that.
Guess the category 'other teams' kickers' needs a little more attention from me...
Take a look at Gramatica's kicks from 50+ yds. prior to his injury. Freakin' unbelievable.
The Pats will bring in other kickers for competition.
His first four years were very good; as good or better than Vinatieri's.
He could be a nice signing if he's recovered from his injury.
Oh boy. SB here we come!
I suppose he could mentor a rookie.
Morten's comments while announcing NFLE games indicates he is doing a bendover and spread for the Falcons and their warmer weather.
My God. It has finally set in. AV is gone. Really gone.
I hope this is not their Plan A when it comes to his replacement because if it is, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
I passed that point before he signed with the Dolts. He was clearly not coming back. It would have been a big surprise to me, anyway.
Here's reality, buddy
4-4-DEN25 (12:53) A.Vinatieri 43 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.
Down by 9 with almost a full quarter to go. Mr. Perfect.
I get all that, but without re-igniting the whole debate I'll just say his previous performances slightly overshadow all of that. Lest we forget about our beloved Tommy's little toss to Champy that also had a thing or two to do with the outcome of the game. As with AV, that mistake by Tom does not overshadow previous greatness. End of story.
But alas, AV is the enemy now.
My point was an attempt at levity. We all know AV is gone. We all knew he probably wasn't coming back. But when his replacement dawns in the form of a Gramatica it tends to bring a little added perspective to his departure.
Gramatica was probably a better kicker than Vinatieri as recently as three years ago. Being only 30 it's wholly reasonable he can be again if his health really was the cause. If not, he won't be our kicker. No harm done.
This guy was kicking in the Arena League last year I am sure just a quick signing and he will be out once the new Rookie is drafted.
My thoughts as well.
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