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  1. ramon

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    -If they let him go, they could take a big cap hit in 2011 or 2012

    -He still is better than anything else they have or can get in the draft


    -I do not want to see him playing on the JETS


    -Hopefully BB can make amends and get him back into the picture
     
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    Around midseason in 09 I thought he was coming around and get back to that impact player that he was. Now after all the fuss about him coming in late, acting like a rebel in the locker room, I hope he stays at least to come in when needed, rather than play every down. Sorta play his strenghts when its the situation arises. He's not a bad player, we all remember some plays like sacking Favre (jets) and RB at the same time in the 08 season.
     
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    They probably should keep him and return him to his preferred role as a pass rush specialist. This means TBC probably is out of work.

    I agree that taking a 4.4 million cap hit in 2011 isn't desirable.

    Neither is letting him sign with the Jets who are restricted due to restrictions placed on them in the uncapped year. The exception to these restrictions is that they are free to pursue players that get cut...

    So we probably shouldn't cut him.
     
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    So 4.4 M is not good, but 10M for a crappy disgruntled player's service IS GOOD? Are you smoking something?

    4.4M is a cheap price to say sayonara to this jerk.
     
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    4.4 Trillion is a cheap price to pay for dumping this guy.
     
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    There is no cap this year- so the "cap hit" is basically meaningless.
    Whether he is better than what you can get in the draft is speculation unless you have a crystal ball. I'm guessing you don't.
    Ending up on the Jets? If they cut him he'll likely be in New York. Trade him and you determine where he ends up. There might not be alot of teams willing to take the chance considering his punk B attitude, but all it takes is one. So trade him for a 6th or 7th round pick as any value is better than none and stick him somewhere in the NFC or at least out of the AFC East.
    Lastly you think Belichick should make amends to AD? Really? This was a joke, right? I think you have it backwards, but I don't see it happening in either case.
     
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    Since there is no real benefit to cutting him now (other than to the Jets and to him), you can bet that if BB does cut him, it won't be until about five minutes before his 2010 salary would be guaranteed. AD should ask Tom Jackson if he thinks Belichick is the forgiving type.
     
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    This. There's no benefit to cutting him now, and the team doesn't have to do anything for months. So you see if you can get value for him before the draft, see how the draft shapes up, and wait until training camp to see where things stand. There's simply no need to rush any decision on Adalius.

    And I don't think the point about the cap hit matters with an uncapped year coming.
     
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    Why would we keep AD, who has been a pain, and cut TBC, who has quietly done his job without any fuss?

    I say trade AD and keep TBC. Who is playing the Jets this year, that has realistic hopes of making the playoffs, and can use a pass-rushing specialist like AD?
     
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    Depends how the offseason goes. We already need an OLB, if BB can't find 2 others by season start that he can trust as fulltime contributors keeping AD might be our best option.
     
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    Is Shawn Crable finally ready to contribute?
     
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    I don't want to keep Adalius. I also don't want to let him walk and join the Jets where he could hurt us. Keeping Adalius doesn't cost us more than a workout bonus.

    Signing TBC is unrelated, other than they are both rush linebackers. If we can sign TBC great.

    Cutting Adalius in the uncapped year means that his 4.4 million 2010 cap hit doesn't matter, but we aren't able to accelerate the entire 8.8 million in dead money into the uncapped year. 4.4 million needs to be accounted for in 2011 and 2011 is likely to be capped and with a total cap figure lower than 2009.

    It is probably still the right thing to move on, but since all the money is already sunk into Adalius there is no urgency to release him early.

    I don't believe there is a credible trade market for Adalius because he is overpaid. If Brandon Marshall is worth a 2nd rounder and Anquan Boldin is worth a 3rd rounder... then Adalius Thomas is worth exactly nothing in a trade unless we trade with Seattle for Deion Branch where we are essentially exchanging toxic contracts and I don't see that happening.

    We'll cut or keep Adalius based on how he performs in our training camp. I'd personally make him run a lot of laps.
     
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    That's an example of what I'm talking about. One may believe that after training camp/preseason last year BB had enough faith in guys like Green, Pryor, etc to trade Seymour. If he sees enough this year at OLB maybe AD is gone too, but I'd be suprised if he's moved before preseason before we find another option(s).
     
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    There are five and a half million benefits to cutting him now.
     
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    People keep saying this. First, keeping him costs his 5.5 million dollar salary. Second, he sucks. Who cares if he goes to the Jets? Let him suck there for $5.5 mil.
     
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    But he's not due anything until the first week of the season, other than his workout bonus, plus whatever veterans get during TC.
     
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    I know I'm a bit of a noob...but why do people call Tom Brady "TFB" and Adalius Thomas "AD"? What's the F in TFB for, and why is it a D in AD? Please don't insult me in your reply :x I know I'm stupid...
     
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    Are you saying that no team would be willing to give us a 7th round draft choice for Thomas?

     
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    It is possible that when the Owners and Players agree to start playing again in 2011, that they may not just wipe the slate clean

    ...that is if the Patriots just let Adalius go now...perhaps they make the PATS account for that prorated portion of his roster bonus in 2011 or 2012


    There is no guarantee from the league that his prorated bonus portion will just disappear for cap purposes
     
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