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  1. skri65

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    woo i like this kid..watched him a few times too .. hard hitter
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    I know this is completely meaningless but... that's a name I could root for easily.
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    Roach projects as a 2 down run-stuffing ILB.
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    he runs a 5.01? That's really slow for an ILB, right?
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    Hopfully he can develop into a TJ type. If Vrabel goes back outside, I wonder if anyone can play Phifer's ILB coverage role. Beisel ? Claridge ?
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    By the way, this *might* prove something that was on my mind earlier today. It is that when Bellichick stated there is good depth at LB this year, he could have meant that he could find good value in the undrafted pool.
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    http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=8618&PT=7&PR=2&type=scoutingreport

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    Freddie Roach

    Linebacker

    Height: 6-foot-2
    Weight: 239 pounds
    Class Year: Sr
    Experience: 3V
    High School: Brooks
    Hometown: Killen, AL
    40 time: 4.7 seconds

    Frank Coyle: He has a good combination of size, toughness, instincts and initial quickness to make a roster as a run stuffer, but little else. Fifth- or sixth-round pick.

    Scouting Report:

    Pros: Aggressive, steady inside ‘backer who has been a productive part of the tough Tide defense over the past four seasons. He is best suited for the inside in either scheme where his tackling ability between the tackles may earn him some playing time. In run support, he is a big hitter who has forced many fumbles during his career. He is versatile, having played all three LB positions, though his marginal speed probably limits him to the inside. He has good size and toughness to play the middle and can fill the hole quickly and destroy blocking schemes.

    Cons: He is a one-dimensional defender who probably is limited to being a two-down performer. He needs further development in pass coverage and matching up vs. running backs, tight ends and H-backs. He has had surgery on his right knee that is a minor concern and has certainly affected his overall speed. In pass coverage, he is limited to the shorter zones and is vulnerable in matchups with backs or TE. His marginal speed makes him questionable on kick coverage units, which could limit him as a special teams player.

    Numbers: As a senior, he made 66 tackles with 2.5 tackles for loss and nine passes defended. At the Combine, he ran a 4.93 with a 34-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot, 3-inch broad jump. At the Alabama pro day, he ran 4.87 and did 18 reps.

    Skinny: He has a good combination of size, toughness, instincts and initial quickness to make a roster as a run stuffer, but little else. Fifth- or sixth-round pick.
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    Plus, if somebody blocks him while he's turning around, we get to hear John Madden say "that was a Roach clip is what you'd call that haw haw haw haw."
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    There's some impressive video here.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/prospects?rank_type=2

    Search for Freddie Roach and you'll find him and his video highlights.
    He's a hard hitter. I"m nto saying he's a superstar, but he's someone who could make the team and make a difference. And then from there, who knows.
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    If him and Bruschi ever start inside together it will sound like a damn fine friday night to me.
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    some sites say hes 255 not 239
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    257 at his pro day and at the combine. 40s were 4.87 and 4.93. Just a touch faster than Parham ;)
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    Yeah, he was one LB I hoped we draft. I think he may have a better chance of sticking on hte 53 than Andrews and Stevenson if he can play at all. He needn't be fast or good in coverage. He just has to be Ted Johnson, a bull who can take on Cs and OGs and grab the runner. He can come out in passing situations just like Johnson did.
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    :rofl: Classic.
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    the video impressed me..big hitter..around ball.
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    Great scoop, if true. It's amazing these team leaders, that produce on the field, that slide after running slow 40 times. This would be an interesting pickup.
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    The one word that pops up over and over again in profiles of Roach is "smart." For a Pats ILB, that's a great place to start.
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    Yes, let's hope it's Ted Johnson and not TJ Turner. (Okay, that's only funny if you know pats draft history... I couldn't resist....)
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    War Room analysis
    Strengths: Has NFL height and bulk. Is versatile; can play inside or outside. Plays with good technique. Holds ground at the point of attack. Is strong; sheds blocks quickly to pop ball carriers. Sees the field well and shows great instincts. Shows quick footwork and a nice burst on blitzes. Has great toughness, character and work ethic.

    Weaknesses: Lacks elite speed and athleticism. Doesn't change direction quickly; can be a liability against play-action and lacks range in coverage. Sometimes looks stiff. Doesn't make big plays.

    Bottom line: Roach played both middle and weakside linebacker for the Crimson Tide and was a three-year starter. A hard hitter who has worked hard to improve his game, he has the attitude, skills and intangibles needed to be a solid NFL defender. He offers added value on special teams. He should be selected in the middle or end of Round 6.

    Dan Pompei analysis
    Aware player finds the ball and takes good angles. Excels at tackling. Is a big run stuffer, strong at the point of attack. Lacks good speed and sideline-to-sideline range. Strictly is a two-down player.
    No. 15 on Pompei's ILB rankings
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    Party on!:rocker:

    Seriously, it seems that he has brought both Mincey and Roach in to compete for the WILB TJ spot. Maybe. But I dont see Mincey having the speed to play the Willie role, so these guys are both trying to nail down that spot. With Vrabel outside filling for Willie, that seems to be the hole at LB. I'm sure BB thinks that one of TBC, Claridge, and Beisel will start there, but one of these guys could make the squad backing them up.
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    According to SN his comparison (upside, maybe?) is Jeremiah Trotter. Well, I'll take that.

    He only had an 8 on his wonderlic though.
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    ^thats very suprising because so many say hes a smart player and would Beioli take a guy whos stupid on wonderlic?
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    FREDDIE ROACH MEASURABLES
    Height: 6-1 Weight: 258
    40-yard dash: 4.87 10-yard dash: 1.70
    20-yard shuttle: 4.42 60-yard shuttle:
    Broad jump: 9-3 225-lb. bench: 18
    3-cone drill: 7.49 Vertical jump: 34
    Wonderlic: 8 20-yard dash: 2.84
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    this guy looks like a real sleeper pick. From watching that video of him, he hits hard and sheds blockers real well. He looks quicker than his 40 times. He also has a lot of playing experience against good competition. Also said to be a good leader with great instincts.
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    Great Pick-up. I was hoping we would draft this guy in the 5th round
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    great pickup and we didn't even have to spend a pick on him. Sounds like a potential TJ type to me. This was a great overall draft that addressed alot of different positions and needs for our team!
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    Freddie is my man

    I saw him make a play in the Senior Bowl where he *flew* acroos the field and laid a serious lick on some poor RB. That's when I said I want *him* on my team.
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    Blog: Reading Material on Roach

    Found a story from his local paper ... says getting a chance to go to New England is a "great opportunity." For more on the story, click here:

    http://www.patsfans.com/price/blog/?q=node/300

    Thanks,
    Chris
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    That wonderlic score of 8 is a bit concerning. I hope someone messed up on the reporting, or that he didn't take the wonderlic seriously.
    *I really can't type tonight....
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