Pats never were offered a 1 & 3 for Cassel

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  1. carolinatony

    carolinatony In the Starting Line-Up

    Per Rotoworld
    Sorry if posted already

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  2. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    Suspected this all along.. he did not do Pioli favors.. he did what was best for the team..
  3. Brady-To-Branch

    Brady-To-Branch Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    That's pretty much what NEInsider said on the ESPN message boards, soon after the deal.
  4. kurtinelson

    kurtinelson In the Starting Line-Up

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    That's all the proof I need. BB is NEInsider.
  5. fumbrunner

    fumbrunner In the Starting Line-Up

    Likely no formal offer, and as he stated it would be complicated if the three-way deal was an option. I suspect there were some discussions about such a deal, but no formal proposition. The deal with KC had to be done when it was done so that the Pats could move forward with free agency.
  6. makoute

    makoute In the Starting Line-Up

    You never know lol
  7. PatsfanGlo

    PatsfanGlo On the Game Day Roster


    I actually kinda wish he is....Imagine BB with big smirk on his face as he is typing all those stuff...
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  8. BadMoFo

    BadMoFo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we already had a deal in place and it was with my best pal Scott. It was too late."

  9. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

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    Think ?

    Do you really think Belichick would turn down a better offer just because the other deal was with best pal Scott ?

    Come on, that doesn't pass the sniff test.
  10. mmasterkillah

    mmasterkillah On the Game Day Roster

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    Bill might lead you guys in the wrong direction, but he doesn't normally flat out lie to the media (injury report notwithstanding). No way he turns down a sweet offer because he "likes Pioli". LOL
  11. MassPats38

    MassPats38 Supporter Supporter

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    Ditto. Belichick is lying about not receiving a better offer to conceal his inferior deal with Pioli? To what end? Where's the precedent with Belichick? All good conspiracy theories need at least a few data points, or the call goes out to don the tin foil helmets.
  12. carolinatony

    carolinatony In the Starting Line-Up

    I never thought BB would turn down a #1 pick instead of a 2 because it costs more to sign that pick. That never made sense to me.
    In BB we trust.
  13. JFK

    JFK Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    maybe BB gave Pioli his word...He should be a man of his words.
    He won't admit he took a lesser deal..I won't

    PATSYLICIOUS Pro Bowl Player

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    I sure as heck believe this over the notion of us passing up a 1 and a 3 out of favor. At the most, give Pioli a chance to match it.
  15. JoeSixPat

    JoeSixPat Pro Bowl Player

    Maybe most GMs still question whether Cassel can do anything near what he did in a system that doesn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker... i.e. they think he may look more like the guy in pre-season than the guy at the end of the season.

    I still find that tough to believe as I'd have to say Cassel showed a lot of poise and leadership making BIG throws when it counted most - but the fact that Pioli seems willing to take a wait and see on a long term contract suggests that he too may have some doubts.
  16. PatsWickedPissah

    PatsWickedPissah Supporter Supporter

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    Yes, let's IGNORE BB's all too rational explanation that stuff like 3 way deals take time, that contracts take time to get signed and that there are lots of parties, lots of contingencies and lots of RISK that any small issue blows the deal. It's obvious that the tin hat crowd here has never done business deals. I do admit to inexperience in negotiating complex N way deals.
  17. Sean Pa Patriot

    Sean Pa Patriot Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    The main thing is the obvious these teams had 1 month to get thier acts together, and did not want him, KC did, Denver was too late end of story..
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  18. Gwedd

    Gwedd Supporter Supporter

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    BINGO! We have a BINGO!
  19. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member Supporter

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    OK, I read that as "we took the best offer that we could get done immediately, to maximize the combined value of trade compensation and free agent acquisitions." Which was the only reasonable thing to do, right? So what is left to this dry husk of a story?
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  20. groundgame

    groundgame Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we did not want to trade our Pro Bowl calibre QB to one our toughest playoff rivals (Denver),"
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