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  1. Jared

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    My Backfield Binkies

    The first time I saw Woodhead play last year, literally within 1 to 2 plays, I decided he would be my binky. Of course a few players later, he was EVERYONE'S binky thanks to his performance.

    Ridley has convinced me with his first run tonight. I didn't know much about him other than that he was a captain from LSU and stayed for his senior year. I vaguely knew he was the "power" back of our two draftees, while Vareen was the "Faulk-ish" back. But I didn't realize how much speed he had, and his first play showed more wiggle and vision that Maroney ever did.

    Every year it seems a 2nd or 3rd round rookie RB explodes for some team after he was drafted with little fanfare. I rarely have such gut reactions, but watching Ridley play makes me feel like he could have a very good year.

    Benny better watch his back.
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    Re: My Backfield Binkies

    Welcome aboard.

    Sorry to burst your self-congratulatory bubble, there, bub...

    But a few of us had Brother WoodHead Binkified BEFORE he suited up:

    Who The **** Is Danny WoodHead???

    It's called "research". :cool:
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    Re: My Backfield Binkies

    I don't believe in research.
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    Re: My Backfield Binkies

    I remember him from the Jets hard knocks. I loved the way he did everything well. So did one of his coaches but ultimately Rex cut him for the lazy gifted WR. I was happy as doodoo when we picked him up.
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    Re: My Backfield Binkies

    I remember the comment "look at that little ******** go" by sexy rexy.
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    A quick thought on tonight's preseason games

    Looking at the results of the games when the Pats game ended:

    NE 47, JAX 12
    PHI 13, BAL 6
    SD 17, SEA 10
    DAL 10, DEN 9

    I'm reminded of a quote from Cris Collinsworth in 2007. Paraphrased slightly:

    "Today we saw seven backup squads play football, and the Patriots backups play something else. We don't know what that is."

    And to paraphrase the reply from Patriots Planet:

    "That something else would be the Jacksonville backups. I don't know that what they do qualifies as "football."" [​IMG]
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    Re: A quick thought on tonight's preseason games

    Thomas Clayton just scored a TD for Seattle...
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    When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    The only one in recent memory I can think of was the SB XX when we lost 46-10 to Chicago. I know we lost 50-0 to the Dolphins perfect '72 season but I can't think of any others Reg. season Pre-season Playoffs or otherwise. Let me know which ones I missed.
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    Re: A quick thought on tonight's preseason games

    I enjoyed watching our backups play. Those who are evaluating the final 53 from tonights play have learned nothing since Belichick came here.
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    Re: When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    From Pro Football Reference, it's happened eight times:

    1993 @NYJ: L 45-7
    1990 @NYJ: L 42-7
    1988 @GB: L 45-3
    1979 @DEN: L 45-10
    1972 @MIA: L 52-0
    1971 @MIA: L 41-3
    1970 @CIN: L 45-7
    1970 v.(!) BUF: L 45-10

    Conversely, they've won 14 games by 5 TDs or more, six of those in the last five seasons.
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    Re: When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    I look on PFR alot too, but your research skills are unmatched ct. Good stuff. I tried to look up pre-season and came up short on answers but thanx for your diligence. Your excellent.
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    Re: When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    worst loss of the Belichick era would be, I'd guess, the 31-0 loss to Buffalo in the opener in 2003(?) which prompted the ESPN idiot Tom Jackson to declare that the Patriots "hate their coach" after he cut Lawyer Milloy.

    Avenged 31-0 in the season finale, then with a big trophy and a ring...
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    Re: My Backfield Binkies

    Ridley came out after his junior year. He could have went back to LSU. Thankfully he didn't. I had a hunch we'd draft him because he could run and play special teams. Seemed like a good fit for us and he's showing it. Can't wait to see Vereen healthy.
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    Re: When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    That's the one that I was thinking of.... certainly felt like a 5 TD loss... :eek:
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    Re: When Was The Last Time NE got beat by 5 TDs?

    Yeah, courtesy of Drew. It was like his and Lawyers revenge game. It reminds me of last years How The F did the Browns just whip us by 20?
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    Where the position groups stand

    QB -- Amazingly good
    OL -- Looking very good, slight depth concerns at interior OL notwithstanding
    TE -- Looking very good, some oopsies in the Jags game notwithstanding
    RB -- Looking very good, even though Woody is small, Ridley is young, and Sammy is old
    WR -- Looking very solid, assuming Branch stays healthy at least until Ochocinco gets over his jitters, which I think is a very good bet
    DL (classic) -- Looking like there's a LOT of talent in the competition, so there's good hope
    DL (edge)/OLB (3-4) -- Who the heck knows?
    ILB/MLB -- Looking very good
    S -- Looking OK because of Chung, but Meriweather and quality depth are issues
    CB -- Looking 3 deep
    Kickers -- Looking fine, Gost's injury caution notwithstanding
    STs otherwise -- Scary
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    Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    Great write-up by Greg Bedard on what the Patriots were doing on D last night. Interesting note that there were 16 team's scouts there last night. Might make it tough come cut time (harder to slip players past other teams).

    Here's the link:

    Precious little insight on defense - The Boston Globe
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    re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    Nice little write-up, thanks for posting that link.
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    re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    I was withholding judgement since he came in during the season last year and his head still seemed in Green Bay, but this article and the one yesterday on the changes BB made on the D are both superb. I'm becoming a fan of his work.

    His 53 man roster tablet is GREAT. (And, yes, I'm still trying to find out exactly WHO Jeff Tarpinian is! :D ).
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    Re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    Terrific article, here's the first-page link:
    Precious little insight on defense - The Boston Globe

    Interesting that Love -- who is commonly described as "the only real backup NT on the roster" -- was playing the rushing DT role (mini-Haynesworth), while Richard was playing mini-Wilfork.
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    Re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    Good read. It was definitely noticeable how aggressive our DLs were last night. I can't wait to see Vince and Albert in this scheme.
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    Conditional Pick trade possibilities (2011 edition)

    After the first exhibition game, and the first two weeks of camp, it seems that the opinion of the board is that there are more than 53 legitimate NFL players in the Patriots camp.

    Who are the bubble players who could probably get the Patriots a conditional 6th or 7th round pick in the 2012 or 2013 draft. The level of performance needed for these players is not too high (back-up offensive lineman, ST stud, 5th WR etc)

    • Brandon Tate as ST/5th WR
    • Choose one of Wendell/Austin/Morris/Ohnberger
    • Wilhite or Butler as 5th CB/ST
    • Morris
    • Choose one or more of Love, Pryor, Richards, Weston on the d-line

    Who else would other teams not mind paying the proveriablly bucket of golf balls and a six-pack to guarantee access to a niche role player from the Patriots?
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    Re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    I am inclined to agree that we may trend to a 4-3 under as a base, but quickly go to our 24 nickel once we get into passing situations. The 4-3 under is great as a run stop scheme, and with Wilfork and Haynesworth in the middle, that will most certainly put the other team into a 2nd/3rd and long situation.

    What I saw last night was a big improvement on our atrocious 3rd and long record (worst in the league last year) but there is plenty of room for improvement. Still not there in zone coverage yet.
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    Re: Conditional Pick trade possibilities (2011 edition)

    Tate would net something, as would Pryor. I'm very confident that Love makes the roster. Other than that, I think the interior OL and CB guys are too bad to get a pick, and Morris doesn't want to play anywhere else.
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    Re: Where the position groups stand

    We could certainly use an addition at OLB and a backup OL or two; but this team is ready to compete for the SB.

    OFFENSE
    Simply awesome!
    Belichick has taken one of the very best offenses in the league and added Ochocinco and some youngsters at OL and RB. Extending Mankins and Light was obviously key, giving time for Solder and Cannon to develop. Ridley looks to be ready to take signifcant reps this year. Green-Ellis, Woodhead and Ridley provide a reasonable base of 3 running backs.

    FRONT SEVEN
    Belichick is likely to have one more addition. This front seven should be much better than last year, even if a couple of the additions don't make the team. We're not losing anyone from last year's team other than Banta-Cain, so there should be significant upgrades.

    CORNERS
    No team can do much better than having Butler and Wilhite competing for #4 reps with a highly drafted rookie. We are rock-solid with Bodden coming back, even if he isn't 100%.

    SAFETIES
    This is a concern for the future, not for 2011. We have three starters. We also have special teamer Brown as an emergency #4 safety.

    DOWLING
    It seems that his future is at safety. In any case, Dowling should be able to be at least a backup at either corner or safety this year. After all, we have 3 starters at both corner and safety. That's all we NEED. In addition we have Butler and/or Wilhite, Brown and Dowling.
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    Re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    You are quite welcome!
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    Re: Greg Bedard analysis of last night's defense

    I'm becoming a huge fan too. He doesn't straddle the fence on things. He's gives specific opinions based on what he has witnessed in camp, and I love that. Yesterday, when he was chatting, he gave a bunch of nice tidbits. Before the game, he mentioned how good Price had looked in camp, but mentioned he has been dropping a bunch of punts, which could hurt him. It allowed me to watch that closely last night, and of course the kid looked great. He also (in order) gave his predictions of which undrafted free agents would stick. I think he's the best thing to happen to this town. He brings real info, and isn't afraid to voice his personal opinion.

    P.S. - He also said that he LOVES the camps that both Pryor and Love have had.
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