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  1. jmt57

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    Sometimes a comment gets repeated so often it becomes accepted as fact. One of those comments is that Bill Belichick always trades down, he never trades up. For some opposing fans and media members, this has actually grown beyond the original statement as I now hear and read that Belichick hates first round picks.

    With that in mind I decided to take a look at transactions involving draft picks during Belichick's tenure with the Pats. While Belichick is indeed more likely to trade down than trade up, you have to also take a closer look at those definitions. Trading down may be defined as anything resulting in making the selection later, but very often the Pats are actually ending up with a higher draft pick - but in the following season. Also, there is no evidence that I can see that shows Belichick loathes first round picks. And the last thing that stood out to me is how many compensatory picks the Pats have been able to pick up this decade.

    Here is a list of transactions involving draft picks during Bill Belichick's tenure with the Pats.



    2009
    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel to Chiefs for their #34 (2nd)

    Prior - Pats acquired #47 (2nd) in 2008 trade

    Comp - #97 (3rd) as comp for FA Asante Samuel

    Out - Pats traded # 159 to Eagles for WR Greg Lewis

    Comp - # 170 (5th) as comp for FA Donte Stallworth

    Comp - # 207 (6th) as comp for FA Randall Gay



    2008
    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade their #7 (1st) and #164 (5th) to the Saints for their #10 (1st) and #78 (3rd)
    Pats pick LB Jerod Mayo at #10 and LB Shawn Crable at #78
    Saints pick DT Sedrick Ellis at #7 and OT Carl Nicks at #164

    Down/Future - Draft Day: Pats trade their #69 (3rd) to the Chargers for their #160 (5th) and a 2nd round 2009 pick (#47)
    Chargers pick FB Jacob Hester at #69
    Pats trade pick # 160 later, and the other pick will be made Saturday

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade that #160 (5th) and #238 (7th) to the Bucs for their #153 (5th)
    Pats pick WR Matt Slater at #153
    Bucs pick QB Josh Johnson at #160 and RB Cory Boyd with #238

    Down - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #28 (1st) of 2007 for a 1st round 2008 pick (#7) and #110 (4th) in 2007
    49ers pick OL Joe Staley at #28
    Pats trade #7 (above) and end up with Jerod Mayo and Shawn Crable
    Pats trade #110 (4th) for Randy Moss



    2007
    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade WR Deion Branch in 2006 to Seahawks for their 1st round 2007 pick (#24)
    Pats pick Brandon Meriweather at #24 (1st) in 2007

    Out - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade # 165 (5th) for WR Doug Gabriel
    Raiders pick S Eric Frampton at #165

    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade WR Deion Branch to Seahawks for their 1st round pick (#24)
    Pats pick Brandon Meriweather at #24 (1st) in 2007

    Out - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #60 (2nd) and #238 (7th) to Dolphins for WR Wes Welker
    Dolphins pick C Samson Satele and DE Abraham Wright

    Down/Future - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #28 (1st) of 2007 for a 1st round 2008 pick (#7) and #110 (4th) in 2007
    49ers pick OL Joe Staley at #28
    Pats trade #7 (above, in '08) and end up with Jerod Mayo and Shawn Crable
    Pats trade #110 (below)

    Out - Draft Day: Pats trade #110 (4th) for Randy Moss to Raiders
    Raiders pick CB John Bowie

    Down/Future - Draft Day: Pats trade #91 (3rd) for a a 3rd in 2008 and 7th (#211) this year
    Raiders pick T Mario Henderson at #91
    Pats pick LB Oscar Lua at #211
    Pats use 3rd in 2008 to trade up to 2nd in 2009 (Jacob Hester trade)

    In - Pats trade T Brandin Gorin for the Cardinals 6th (#180)
    Pats pick LB Justin Rogers

    Comp - #171 (5th) for FA Adam Vinatieri
    Pats pick OL Clint Oldenburg

    Comp - #208 (6th) for FA David Givens
    Pats pick RB Justise Hairston

    Comp - #209 (6th) for FA Tom Ashworth
    Pats pick OT Corey Hilliard

    Comp - #247 (7th) for FA Christian Fauria
    Pats pick C Mike Elgin

    After the 2006 draft, the Pats also traded OL Ross Tucker to the Browns and RB Patrick Cobbs to the Steelers for conditional draft picks, but it appears the Pats did not get any draft picks in return for either player.



    2006
    Out - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #152 (5th) to Browns for WR Andre Davis
    Browns pick DB DeMario Minter

    Up - Draft Day Trade: Pats trade #52 (2nd) for Packers # 36 (2nd) and #75 (3rd)
    Pats pick WR Chad Jackson
    Packers pick WR Greg Jennings and C Jaspn Spitz

    Prior - Pats acquired #106 in a 2005 trade
    Pats pick FB Garrett Mills

    Prior - Pats acquired #136 in a 2005 trade
    Pats pick OT Ryan O'Callaghan

    Comp - #205
    Pats pick G Dan Stevenson

    Comp - #206
    Pats pick DL LeKevin Smith



    2005
    Out - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #95 (3rd) and #168 (5th) to Cardinals for CB Duane Starks and #145 (5th)
    Cardinals pick LB Darryl Blackstock and LB Lance Mitchell
    Pats trade the #145 pick to the Lions (below)

    Future - Draft Day Trade: Pats trade # 145 (5th) and #206 (6th) to Lions for a 4th in 2006 (#106)
    Pats pick FB Garrett Mills in 2006
    Lions pick QB Dan Orlovsky and DE Jonathan Goddard

    Down - Draft Day Trade: Pats trade #64 (2nd) to Ravens for a 3rd (#84), 6th (#195) and a 2006 3rd (#75)
    Ravens pick OT Adam Terry
    Pats pick CB Ellis Hobbs at #84; the other two picks are later traded to Green Bay (Chad Jackson trade)

    Up - Draft Day Trade: Pats trade #195 (6th) and #246 (7th) to Packers for #175 (6th)
    Packers pick WR Craig Bragg and G William Whitticker
    Pats later trade the #175 pick to the Raiders (below)

    Down/Future - Draft Day trade: Pats trade #175 (6th) to Raiders for #230 (7th) and a 2006 5th (#136)
    Raiders pick DT Anttaj Hawthorne
    Pats pick QB Matt Cassel (and in 2006 pick T Ryan O'Callaghan)

    Comp - #100 (4th)
    Pats pick OG Nick Kaczur

    Comp - #170 (5th)
    Pats pick LB Ryan Claridge

    Comp - #255 (7th)
    Pats pick TE Andy Stokes



    2004
    Out - Pre-Draft Trade: Pats trade #56 to the Bengals for RB Corey Dillon
    Bengals pick FS Madieu Williams

    Out - Pre-Draft Trade: In 2003 the Pats trade #104 (4th) of 2004 to the Bears for NT Ted Washington
    Bears trade pick; 49ers pick DT Isaac Sopoaga

    Out - Pre-Draft: Pats give up #197 (6th) to Steelers in compensation for signing RFA DE Rodney Bailey
    Steelers pick C Drew Caylor

    Prior - Pats acquired #21 in a 2003 trade
    Pats pick DT Vince Wilfork

    Prior - Pats acquired #113 in a 2003 trade
    Pats pick S Dexter Reid


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  2. jmt57

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    2003
    In - Pre-Draft day: Pats trade T Grant Williams to Rams for a 7th round pick (#225)
    Pats trade that pick in another trade that results in draft of C Dan Koppen

    In - Pre-Draft Day: On 2002 draft day Pats trade QB Drew Bledsoe to Bills for 2003 1st (#14)
    Pats trade the pick (see below)

    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade Greg Randall to Texans for #154 (5th)
    This pick is used in another trade (below) for pick used on C Dan Koppen

    Up - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #81 (3rd) and #140 (5th) to Redskins for #75 (3rd) and a 2004 4th
    This pick is used in another trade (below) used on picks for Eugene Wilson and Dan Klecko

    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade S Tebucky Jones to Saints for #78 (3rd), #239 (7th), and a 2004 4th (113th)
    Pats use #78 in trade that results in Corey Dillon, and take Tully Banta-Cain and Dexter Reid with the others

    Future - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade #78 (3rd) from above to Dolphins for their 2nd pick in 2004
    Dolphins pick T Wade Smith
    Pats later use pick to trade for Corey Dillon

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #14 (1st) and # 193 (6th) to Bears for #13 (1st)
    Bears pick DE Michael Haynes and trade other (OT Marques Ogden)
    Pats pick DL Ty Warren

    Down/Future - Draft Day: Pats trade #19 (1st) to Ravens for #41 (2nd) and 2004 1st (#21)
    Ravens pick QB Kyle Boller
    Pats trade the #41 pick (see below); pick Vince Wilfork with the 2004 #21 pick

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #41 (2nd) and #75 (3rd) to Texans for #36 (2nd) and #117 (4th)
    Texans pick TE Bennie Joppru and OT Seth Wand
    Pats pick DB Eugene Wilson and DL Dan Klecko

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #50 (2nd) and #120 (4th) to Panthers for #45 (2nd)
    Panthers pick C Bruce Nelson and trade #120 to Broncos (see below)
    Pats pick WR Bethel Johnson

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #128 (4th) and #157 (5th) to Broncos for #120 (4th)
    Broncos pick DE Bryant McNeal and C Ben Claxton
    Pats pick CB Asante Samuel

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #154 (5th) and #225 (7th) to Titans for #164 (5th), #201 (6th), and #243 (7th)
    Titans pick S Donnie Nickey and T Todd Williams
    Pats pick C Dan Koppen, QB Kliff Kingsbury, and DT Ethan Kelley



    2002
    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade WR Terry Glenn to Packers for #126 and 2003 4th (#128)
    Pats pick DE Jarvis Green at #126 and use 2003 pick in deal that turns results in Asante Samuel

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #32 (1st), #96 (3rd), and #234 (7th) for #21 (1st)
    Redskins pick QB Patrick Ramsey, trade #96 (DT Dorsett Davis) and pick DE Greg Scott
    Pats pick TE Daniel Graham at #21

    In/Future - Draft Day Trade: Pats trade QB Drew Bledsoe to Bills for 2003 1st (#14)
    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #131 (4th) and #144 (5th) to Broncos for #117 (4th)
    Broncos pick S Sam Brandon and WR Herb Haygood
    Pats pick QB Rohan Davey

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #168 (5th) to Cowboys for #237 (7th) and a 2003 5th
    Cowboys pick CB Pete Hunter
    Pats pick RB Antwoine Womack

    Out - Pre-Draft day: In 2000 the Pats traded their 2002 6th to Rams for WR Dane Looker
    Rams pick QB Steve Bellisari



    2001
    Out - Pre-Draft Day: Pats send #101 (4th) and #206 (7th) to Jets as part of Bill Belichick deal
    Jets pick CB Jamie Henderson and NT James Reed

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #39 (2nd) to Steelers for #50 (2nd) and #112 (4th)
    Steelers pick LB Kendrell Bell
    Pats use #50 in trade that ends up as Matt Light pick, and #112 in trade that ends up as Kenyatta Jones pick

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #50 (2nd, from Steelers) and #173 (6th, from 49ers) to Lions for #48
    Lions pick C Dominic Raiola and LB Jason Glenn
    Pats pick OT Matt Light

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #69 (3rd) to Vikings for #86 (3rd) and #119 (4th)
    Vikings pick CB Eric Kelly
    Pats pick CB Brock Williams and TE Jabari Hollaway

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #112 (4th) and #139 (5th) to Chargers for #96 (4th)
    Chargers pick LB Carlos Polk and LB Zeke Moreno
    Pats pick OL Kenyatta Jones

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #149 (5th, from Jets) to Lions for #180 (6th) and #216 (7th)
    Lions pick QB Mike McMahon
    Pats pick TE Arthur Love and K Owen Pochman

    Down/Future - Draft Day: Pats trade #170 (6th) to Jaguars for 2002 5th
    Jaguars pick G Chad Ward
    Pats pick

    Comp - #239 (7th)
    Pats pick LB T.J. Turner



    2000
    Out: Pre-Draft: Pats send first (#16) to Jets as part of Bill Belichick deal
    Jets trade it to 49ers, who pick LB Julian Peterson

    Comp - #127 (4th)
    Pats pick Greg Randall

    In - Pre-Draft: Pats trade DE Mike Jones to Rams for 5th (#161)
    Pats pick G Jeff Marriott

    Comp - #199 (6th)
    Pats pick QB Tom Brady

    Comp - #201 (6th)
    Pats pick DE David Nugent

    Down/Future - Pats trade #212 (7th) to 49ers for 2001 6th
    49ers pick QB Tim Rattay

    Comp - #239 (7th)
    Pats pick FB Patrick Pass




    Bottom Lines of how in essence some of the trades turned out:
    Pats traded Sedrick Ellis, Carl Nicks, Joe Staley and John Bowie for Jerod Mayo, Shawn Crable and Randy Moss
    - Pats traded Sedrick Ellis and Carl Nicks for Jerod Mayo and Shawn Crable
    - Pats traded John Bowie for Randy Moss
    Pats traded Samson Satele and Abraham Wright for Wes Welker
    Pats traded Jacob Hester, Josh Johnson and Cory Boyd for Saturday's #47 pick and Matt Slater
    - Pats traded Josh Johnson and Cory Boyd for Matt Slater
    Pats traded Deion Branch for Brandon Meriweather
    Pats traded Eric Frampton for Doug Gabriel
    Pats traded Greg Jennings and Jason Spitz for Chad Jackson
    Pats traded Brandin Gorin for Justin Rogers
    Pats traded Darryl Blackstock, Lance Mitchell, Dan Orlovsky and Jonathan Goddard for Duane Starks and Garrett Mills
    Pats traded Anttaj Hawthorne for Matt Cassel and Ryan O'Callaghan
    - Pats traded Craig Bragg and William Whitticker for Matt Cassel and Ryan O'Callaghan
    Pats traded Madieu Williams for Corey Dillon
    Pats traded Isaac Sopoaga for Ted Washington
    Pats traded Michael Haynes and Marques Ogden for Ty Warren
    - Pats traded Drew Bledsoe and Marques Ogden for Ty Warren
    Pats traded Kyle Boller for Vince Wilfork and more
    Pats traded Bennie Joppru and Seth Wand for Eugene Wilson and Dan Klecko
    Pats traded Dominic Raiola and Jason Glenn for Matt Light
     
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    Impressive. Enjoyed reading your work.
     
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    Great research jmt57. The analysis is top notch to boot. I see your name on a post and I always read it, and this is a prime example why.

    Good stuff my friend.
     
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    Great job! I think this refutes those always/never trade scenario people. I'm not sure if anyone can read into this all too much though as there are no patterns subtle or otherwise. It proves we have made mistakes(trading UP for Slater??????), but that we value VALUE more than any individual players. Meaning that if there isnt a player that both fits in the Pats' system AND has value on their board (relative to other players) they would just take a pass.
     
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    Great work. I think the only thing you can summize from this is that BB is not afraid to dance up or down or into the future.

    I hope Crabtree falls to #10 so BB can move up to take him.
     
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    That's exactly what I got out if it too. Though many try to pigeon-hole Belichick with 'trends', he's far more complex than that. He does what he thinks will put the team in the best position to win, period.
     
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    Time for an update:


    2009
    In - Pre-Draft Day: Pats trade QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel to Chiefs for their #34 (2nd)
    Pats pick SS Patrick Chung

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #23 to Ravens for #26 and #162 (5th)
    Ravens pick OT Michael Oher
    Pats later trade both picks

    Down - Draft Day: Pats trade #26 (1st) and #162 (5th) to Packers for #41 (2nd) and #73 (3rd)
    Packers pick ILB Clay Matthews and OT Jamon Meredith
    Pats pick CB Darius Butler and trade #73 to Jacksonville for a 2nd in 2009

    Prior - Pats acquired #47 (2nd) in 2008 trade to Chargers for their #69 2007 pick
    This pick is used later in a trade to acquire DL Ron Brace at #40

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #47 (2nd), #124 (4th) and #199 (6th) to the Raiders for #40 (2nd)
    Raiders pick SS Mike Mitchell, WR Louis Murphy and DE Stryker Sulak
    Pats pick DL Ron Brace

    Out/Future- Draft Day: Pats trade #73 (3rd) to the Jaguars for a 2010 2nd and #232 (7th)
    Jaguars pick CB Derek Cox
    Pats pick WR/QB Kent Edelman at #232

    Out/Future - Draft Day: Pats trade #89 (3rd) to the Titans for a 2010 2nd
    Titans pick TE Jared Cook

    Comp - #97 (3rd) as comp for FA Asante Samuel
    Pats pick OLB/ILB Tyrone McKenzie

    In - Draft Day: Pats trade CB Ellis Hobbs to the Eagles for #137 (5th) and #141 (5th)

    Up - Draft Day: Pats trade #137 (5th) and #141 (5th) to Ravens for #123 (4th) and #198 (6th)
    Ravens pick ILB Jason Phillips and trade #141 to Denver (WR Kenny McKinley)
    Pats pick OG Rich Ohrnberger and LS/DT Jake Ingram

    Out - Pats traded # 159 to Eagles for WR Greg Lewis
    Eagles pick OT Fenuki Tupou

    Comp - # 170 (5th) as comp for FA Donte Stallworth
    Pats pick OL George Bussey

    Comp - # 207 (6th) as comp for FA Randall Gay
    Pats pick DL Myron Pryor
     
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