Pats draft Darren McFadden

[SeanBruschi54]

The irony of the 2004 NFL Draft for the New England Patriots with regard to Cedric Cobbs:

http://www.turnertheburner.com/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?season=2004&round=round1

128 Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas New England Patriots
154 Michael Turner RB Northern Illinois San Diego Chargers

Im so glad you have taken over for me as the sound decision maker since i left.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

personally i think there is better value in a mammoth left tackle in long who would be a perrenial pro bowler for years to come and you could run right behind him.

if they don't go OL. then obviously defense. maybe thye could sign asante but i doubt it which means they need LB or CB. I'd like a cb with some size if it's possible. we need a tackling maching inside like a demeco ryans.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

personally i think there is better value in a mammoth left tackle in long who would be a perrenial pro bowler for years to come and you could run right behind him.

if they don't go OL. then obviously defense. maybe thye could sign asante but i doubt it which means they need LB or CB. I'd like a cb with some size if it's possible. we need a tackling maching inside like a demeco ryans.

How many of those guys are total busts though? LT always has this one big mega stud come out and then falls flat on his face.

See Gallery, Robert.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

How many of those guys are total busts though? LT always has this one big mega stud come out and then falls flat on his face.

See Gallery, Robert.

true, so I'll leave it up to BB, they always hit on 1st rounders even if it take a season or two for the player to develop

 

[SeanBruschi54]

true, so I'll leave it up to BB, they always hit on 1st rounders even if it take a season or two for the player to develop

I wasnt saying it wouldnt happen just that there is no such thing as a sure thing anymore.

Logan Mankins was a complete surprise and now hes one of the best guards in the game.

 

[letekro]

McFadden reminds me more of Chris Brown than Adrian Peterson: Upright, good long speed, but not very elusive, and missing the short area burst.

Maroney and Sammy Morris is a great 1-2 punch as far as I'm concerned.

Also, I think we will pony up for Samuel. Since the second half of '06 one could make the argument he's been the best CB in football. If we do keep Samuel, I could see them trading down, possibly way down, for a LB or DB.

 

[Flatout]

Run DmC is definitely one heck of a talent.

Jake Long is an absolute beast but I think the Pats have done pretty darn well with Matt Light at LT. As for linebackers, I have personally seen a lot of Dan Connor and Laurenaitis. They're both awesome but I think Connor fits the mold of lb we're looking for a little better.

Connor is a classic tough, smart, gritty, run stopper, an excellent blitzer, and good in coverage. When Paul Poz won the Butkus playing alongside Connor last year, I wasn't the only one astonished that they picked the wrong Penn State LB. Connor has played better than Poz on a worse defense and Poz was pretty darn good for the Bills until he got injured this year. Laurenaitis is a play maker: excellent in coverage, an uncanny knack for interceptions and a good blitzer. However, if you watch his almost every Saturday, he is not nearly the same run stopper as Connor. He's good but trust me, Connor's better in this area. He's still a beast though.

OSU's Vernon Gohlston (DE) is a potentially VERY interesting OLB conversion project, the guy is a FREAK 6'4 260, he's got 10 sacks so far this year (8th in the nation) and has allegedly run very low 4.5's before . Downside? He's probably on roids

Do you turn down a pass rusher like that?

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Run DmC is definitely one heck of a talent.

Jake Long is an absolute beast but I think the Pats have done pretty darn well with Matt Light at LT. As for linebackers, I have personally seen a lot of Dan Connor and Laurenaitis. They're both awesome but I think Connor fits the mold of lb we're looking for a little better.

Connor is a classic tough, smart, gritty, run stopper, an excellent blitzer, and good in coverage. When Paul Poz won the Butkus playing alongside Connor last year, I wasn't the only one astonished that they picked the wrong Penn State LB. Connor has played better than Poz on a worse defense and Poz was pretty darn good for the Bills until he got injured this year. Laurenaitis is a play maker: excellent in coverage, an uncanny knack for interceptions and a good blitzer. However, if you watch his almost every Saturday, he is not nearly the same run stopper as Connor. He's good but trust me, Connor's better in this area. He's still a beast though.

OSU's Vernon Gohlston (DE) is a potentially VERY interesting OLB conversion project, the guy is a FREAK 6'4 260, he's got 10 sacks so far this year (8th in the nation) and has allegedly run very low 4.5's before . Downside? He's probably on roids

Do you turn down a pass rusher like that?

You dont have to be on roids or anything like that to look like that. Hell the guy could just be on straight protein shakes and a carb diet but as long as he does cardio enough into his workout then hes fine.

 

[Flatout]

I know. I was kidding BTW