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  1. T-cat

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    ok here is my second mock draft and also my last cause im busy tomorrow afternoon haha so here it is and tell me what you think and...dont yell at me cause of my first pick :eek:

    1- Dez Bryant. Hes a strong big reciever kinda like a Anquan Boldin and with Torry Holt AND Randy Moss to learn from he will be the #1 for years to come

    2a- Jerry Hughes. Just look at his college production it compares with the top OLB's and in some cases its better! he will be a great pick up

    2b- Tyson Alualu. Hes a big guy with speed who can also stop the run i see him as a perfect fit for the spot opposite of Ty Warren

    2c- Rob Gronkowski. Granted he has back problems but so didnt Vollmer and look at him but Gronkowski is an all around good TE i see him in the mold of Jason Witten just a lil quicker

    alright there it is now let me have it haha
     
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    I don't think that ANY of the players will be theres when you have us picking them, especially Gronkowski.

     
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    This is pretty much my dream draft without trades (with trades, I'd have Bryant at #22, a trade to the Ravens for Kindle at #24, and Alualu with the remaining 2nd).
     
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    Funnily enough, I did my first ever mock and didn't have Gronkowski going in the first two rounds. Probably a mistake, but I just felt teams were finding players in a deep draft to fit more pressing needs. Still, he should have gone somewhere.

    My patriots mock in the first two rounds:

    22. Mike Iaputi - Graham, Hughes and Kindle were off the board whilst Bryant and Odrick were still there. Iaputi is a long term nfl starter, BB believes in building from the interior out and I just think that a first round pick has to be a safe bet.

    44. Tyson Alualu - Just seems like a Patriot type player. Good intangibles and a strong work ethic.

    47. Ricky Sapp - With the elite pass rushers/OLB's gone, Sapp seems the best possibility to provide an ears-back pass rush.

    53 - Corey Wootton - A Willie McGinest type. Again I like the intangibles and he feel he can at worst become a backup DE should he fail or become too big for OLB.
     
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    Wow, can't agree on this one. Iupati strikes me as the precise opposite of the Pats OL profile: massive and powerful but slow-footed. (And for the ultimate reverse image, compare Logan Mankins' Wonderlic of 31 to Iupati's 13.)
     
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    That would indeed be a great draft...except for Dez. There is no way he is on the Patriots draft board nor do the Patriots really needs him after signing Holt; I know that all you draftnics on the board are now screaming like the Sabine Virgins but I'll bet that Holt has a better year than Dez. The only good thing about drafting Dez would be that Felger would have someone new to pick on that may actually deserve it (i.e. get him off Moss' case; Moss is a boy scout compared to most big receivers out of college). Dez sort of reminds me of Manny Ramirez; he would not go over well with the Boston crowd.
     
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    Werd.

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    Bryant had a pre-draft visit with the Patriots and Belichick has praised his talent; not sure why you think he's not on their board. I don't understand why you don't think they need a young star at WR. Randy Moss is 34 and will almost certainly be gone next year, Torry Holt is 33 and fading, and Wes Welker may never be the same after his injury. Bryant has the talent to be a replacement for Moss and a top-5 receiver in the league.

    His character concerns are mostly overblown, as well. Moss was considerably less of a 'boy scout' coming out of college.
     
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    Through consecutive trades with the Cards, Browns and Seahawks, originating with our #22 and #47, we end up with:

    #38 - Saffold
    #44 - Alualu
    #58 - Damian Williams
    #60 - Toby Gerhart

    Plus (the additional result of said trades):

    #85 - Ricky Sapp
    #88 - Dennis Pitta
    #104 - Dorin Dickerson
    #119 - Te'o-Nesheim
    #139 - Lonyae Miller
    #186 - Blair White

    plus, we still have all our original 6th and 7th rounders.
     
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    Hate it............

    #22 Highest rated player on BB's board regardless of position I will except.

    Second round A: Best available OLB, B: Best available DE/DT C: Best available WR
     
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    That's the death knell right there.

    If the Patriots really only have 25 target players then they must be super selective about character and intelligence. Bryant has a dubious character and a learning disability. Do you really think that BB will blow a first round pick on a guy with a learning disability? Not a Patriots guy. Haven't the Patriots gone through 2-3 WRs that had trouble leaning their system?

    If the Patriots have him on their board then I would think that he would be in the second or third round. Crazy but I expect that Dez is falling.

    Gosselin has Dez at 10; anyone want to bet a beer that he falls past that? Way past...
     
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    He was a 2nd team Academic All-American, so I'm not really sure where you're getting a lack of intelligence from. If anything, a guy with a learning disability who busted his ass enough to become an Academic All-American is even more impressive and speaks to work ethic. From interviews I've seen he has trouble articulating himself, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of learning a football system.
     
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    How peculiar. I got is right from the Pro Football Weekly Draft Guide. I have been through a lot of draft guides through the years and found this to be the best:

    "Has a documented learning disability...not a crafty route runner. Mistimes some jumps. Could require some time to absorb a NF playbook"

    Sounds like so many other Patriots WR disasters...Chad Jackson Joey Galloway etc. Stay away. The Patriots are much better off getting WR in free agency.

    I am not saying you are wrong and maybe he has displayed admirable determination in overcoming his limitations in which case I would regard him in a new light but he still seems risky. I do not want to see BB take the Pete Carroll route and decide to atake bunch of risks just because he had a lot off picks (and none of the risks paid off).
     
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    Most of those risks were generally stupid, though. Chris Canty and Tebucky Jones were drafted about a round or two earlier than anyone else had them, and guys like Tony Simmons and Rod Rutledge were drafted about five rounds early. Bryant would be a slide; yeah, that's a Chad Jackson type risk, but Bryant is a far more talented prospect than Chad Jackson was. Remember Vince Wilfork slid on draft day, so a slide doesn't always translate NFL failure.

    I agree that they need to hit on their picks, though. But Randy Moss will only be around for another year. Next year you will be looking at a potentially crippled Wes Welker, Brandon Tate, and Julian Edelman as your starters. The nice thing about Bryant would be that he doesn't need to be rushed. Moss/Edelman/PUP-Welker/Holt provides a nice transition. He can contribute a little while learning the playbook. Chad Jackson, on the other hand, was expected to come in and be the #1 starter right away.
     
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    I love the reference to the "Sabine Virgins", and I agree with you about Bryant. I love the size, but not the speed. If he was the total package perhaps I could deal with the baggage and the sophomoric attitude. But I wonder if he has the burst to separate, and if he will anything more than a quality possession receiver. I think we can find someone equal in the 2nd round.
     
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    To be fair, questions about attitude, ability to play in an NFL offense, and speed were there with Michael Crabtree as well. And despite missing 5 games due to holdout (which almost certainly wouldn't be a problem with Bryant if taken at 22), he still posted almost 50 receptions and 650 yards.
     
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    yes but chad jackson was more of product of the combine and was pretty good in college but not anywere near Dez Bryants production
     
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