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  1. Willie55

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they win out, they'll get the top seed, unless Pittsburgh overtakes Baltimore to win their division, as the Steelers hold the tie-break advantage over the Pats.
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    You're wrong. Baltimore has the edge against common opponents, and I believe Houston does as well.
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    Wouldn't that be reflected in the nfl.com conference standings?



    Just checked Pats #1 seed in espn.com playoff standings and gives reason:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false


    Now the Ravens have played 1 less conf game and have the same # of conf losses. It looks like the Ravens will be the #1 seed if both teams win out.
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    Head-to-head only applies when one team has beaten or lost to all others; common opponents only applies if they have played 4+ games in common.

    No; it doesn't, for some strange reason.
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    Houston doesn't have an edge on us. They beat Pitt but lost to Oakland. Baltimore does in common opponents. Beat Pitt 2x and we lost to them. But, that doesn't apply in 3-way tie. We need a 3-way tie to get the top seed if we all go 13-3.
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    Looking a little closer it appears that if all 3 teams finish tied the Ravens get the nod, Houston ends up as the #3 seed due to loss to Ravens (assuming all 3 teams win out). Ravens would get the #1 seed due to better common opponent records (conference records would be the same).


    The Bengals are the team for us to watch. They are playing the Texans this week @ home, expect to see a bounce back from them after the game at Pitts this week. Then they have 2 (relatively) easy games Rams on the road and the Cards at home before finishing with the Ravens at home. They are the #6 seed currently, and may need to run the table to make the playoffs.

    Will be checking their games while watching the Pats next week and in week 17.
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    Click the link. Pats are #1 over Houston and Baltimore.
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    Here is the deal.

    Right now we have a better conference record 7-2 vs 6-2 over Baltimore, HOWEVER if both teams will all their remaining games we will have a tied conference record and the tie breaker will fall to SoV in which we will lose to Balitmore on.

    Right now we lead over the Texan on SOV and will almost certainly keep that if we both win all remaining games but that is not a lock.
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    Its amazing that in the last month of play this year that the conference teams with the best records, Baltimore,Houston,Pittsburgh and the Pats do not play each other

    I would also doubt seriously that all of these teams go undefeated the rest of the way...one or two of these teams will have a hiccup on the way to the playoffs,no doubt.
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    If the Ravens win out, and hopefully we do the same, do we remain the top seed?
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    No. Their SOV will be better than ours in a 3-way tie. In a two-way tie they are better because of common opponents. Looks like the only way we get the top seed is if Balt and Pitt lose a game. I'm anticipating Houston losing at least one without Andre Johnson for a couple of more weeks and TJ Yates at qb.
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    Common opponents will not apply between the Patriots and any of the other 9-3 teams, as it requires 4+ games with common opponents.
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    It will once the season is over. Baltimore plays; Pitt, NY Jets, Indy and San Diego. If they beat Indy and San Diego 5-0 against them. We will be 4-1. I'm basing my projections on us going 13-3 and Baltimore going 13-3. With Houston losing somewhere.
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    You answered your question. The pats are ahead now because 7--2 is a better percentage record than 6--2. Both teams have two conference losses to date; if both "win out" then they would be tied in their conference records but the Ravens would come out ahead on the next tiebreak, common opponents (they've played mutual games against the minimum four teams for the category to be applicable; the 13--3 ravens would be 5--0 (Beating Steelers 2x and the Jets, Indy and SD 1x if they win out) and the Pats already are 4--1 (beating Jets 2x but losing to the Steelers, with wins against Indy and SD).

    Personally, I just want them to beat the 'skins on Sunday and then worry about the Denver game, which will, unfortunately, probably get flexed to Sunday night if Tebow wins again.
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    Edit. I see someone else already pointed out that they will both have played the minimum number of four common games (Jests, Indy, SD and Steelers) and, assuming that the ravens win out, will be 5--0 vs. 4--1 against them.
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    Worst #1 seed EVER!!!1!1!!

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    It's probably better to get the #2 seed this year. it would be better for Ravens/Steelers to beat each other up than to play both of them
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    Won't the #2 seed play either PITT or BALT in their first game?

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    The #2 seed will play the highest remaining seed after the wild card round. Either Baltimore or the Steelers will likely be the #5 seed (top wild card team), meaning that the #3 seed (Texans/Titans or Raiders/Broncos) would travel to face the #2 team as long as they beat the #6 seed.

    In other words (if the Patriots end up with the #2 seed), as long as the 3rd seed wins, the Patriots can avoid at least one of the Ravens/Steelers duo.
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    Don't discount the Raiders/Broncos or Texans who Pitt will play one of them to go on to NE or Balt.

    The Raiders are up one week and down the next but are still a decent team,the Texans with that D are worthy as well
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