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    Ian's Daily Blog - Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reported this afternoon that the Patriots traded for defensive end Derrick Burgess of the Oakland Raiders. Terms of the deal have yet to be disclosed. The 30-year-old Burgess is in the final year of a five-year deal, and had been boycotting Raiders training camp to try to force the [...]

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    Finally. Now we can stop with all the "LB weak area" talk. YIPPEE, NO MORE LB THREADS.:eat3::eat2:
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    ILB is still open for discussion, I'd imagine.

    ;)
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    Well, let's hope either Lenon and/or Guyton step there and we potentially have the best LBing corp of the Belichick era. That is saying a lot too since the 2003 was spectacular. Granted that means Burgess has to turn back to his 2005 or 2006 form or something close.
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    Did you know Guyton was the fastest LB in the combine last year and the Patriots were shocked nobody took him in the draft??

    I am hoping Guyton is the guy that makes that takes a quantum leap from year one to year two and solidifies the position. He did show potential last year to do just that.
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    Shhhh, don't draw attention to that.lol
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    so much for pierre woods cutting it
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    I don't think Woods is done, but he just isn't a fulltime starter.
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    So shocked they drafted Bo Ruud instead?

    I like Guyton, please don't call me names. Just think "shocked" is a bit inappropriate.
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    I don't think we know either way. If Crable's healthy, I think having to fight for time will do them some good.
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    isn't guyton an ILB? i thought he's going to be tedy's replacement (someday).
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    Why? We have the flexibility to play Thomas inside on frequent occassions.
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    Pats trade for Burgess. PFT saying (per Lombardi) it's a 3rd and 5th in 2011. Seems high. Especially so if Woods is still playing on 1st downs (and some 2nd downs). Usually trust Lombardi, but could it really be that high ?

    Having said that - I fully expect BB to get some extra '11 picks in the '10 draft. But wait - does an uncapped year eventually lead to no draft in '11 ?
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    Look what they can put out for a 4-3.

    Thomas
    Seymour
    Wilfork
    Burgess

    Mayo
    Bruschi
    Guyton
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    I'd be satisafied with this type of setup - but in the end, you are sitting Warren ? Is that what's best ? OK - he's not on the field at the moment, but I have to think he's gonna be ready to go in the not too distant future.
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    Well he has to rest sometime.
    The thing is if a team can put out an alignment like that for a few plays and still have a guy like Warren on the bench...that's good depth.
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    Yes he is inside............
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    where is Hey Bro and the others to complain about another old LB :D


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    dont know why you would fixate on the 4-3

    look at the 3-4

    Sey, Wilfork, Warren
    Thomas, Mayo, Guyton, Burgess
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    Good news. Anyone know what kind of draft picks we gave up for him?

    This obviously bolsters our depth and if he can play like he did when he led the league in sacks, then we've got ourselves a legit speed rusher. I'm still hoping Crable come through though. I think we solidfied our ILBs for the future with Mayo and Guyton, now if Crable develops, then that would be amazing to have three of our LBs for the future come out in one draft class.

    Back to the subject at hand, I feel better with Burgess on board. Can't wait to see what he can do for us.
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    I just posted in the other Burgess thread that Ian Rapaport at the Herald is reporting it is a 3rd and 4th in 2010 with the 4th becoming conditional to a 5th should Ne acquire a pick in that round (we don't have one as of now). Says this is per Borges' contacts.
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    Reiss now reports the same paramaters. That's too much, IMHO.

    Perhaps now would be a good time for a thread merge.
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    Mayo is better as the MLB than Bruschi would be. Also, you'd be relegating Warren to the bench and he's one of the best players on your defense behind Seymour, Wilfork and Mayo.

    This team is still built for the 3-4, though BB could surprise people and throw a jumbo 4-3 out there that looks like this: Green/Wright, Warren, Wilfork, Seymour. Pushing Thomas back to OLB with Mayo in the middle and Guyton on the other side. If it happens, it would probably be short yardage/goal line situations.
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    If the Pats were going for a 'jumbo' 4-3, wouldn't putting both Wilfork and Brace in the middle make more sense?
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    Can somebody tell me the salary cap implications of this trade?
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    From what I have read Burgess was already paid a $1.5 million roster bonus by the Raiders, and is due a $2 million salary this year. So if you see somewhere that Burgess had a $3.5 million cap with the Raiders, ignore that; his cap number with the Pats will be $2 million.

    In terms of how it affects the Pats cap, he would be taking the place of somebody making about 350k or 500k (depending on how the final roster ends up), so he increases the Pats cap by about $1.5 million.
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    Belichick on Burgess by Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe

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