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  1. Brady_to_Moss

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    And we are getting closer to playoffs...people should be getting healthy now..but it's the other way around this year

    hopefully it doesn't hurt us..we need gronk for playoffs big time...why we need #2 seed!
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    I'm not sure how being deeper into the season, meaning they have played more games, correlates to "people should be getting healthy now".

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    Good luck as far as injuries has a lot to do with how far you go in the playoffs. Look at the Giants last year, they got really healthy at right about this time last year. Unfortunately we are having incredibly BAD luck with injuries. Just when Edelman is starting to show the type of player we'd hope he'd be, we lose him for the year. Our offensive line has been unhealthy ALL season long. Just a really bad year for the Pats with injuries. Maybe too much to overcome despite how well they've been playing.
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    it shouldn't..but we had some injuries at the beginning of the year..Ahern..mankins, hightower ect. Most are better now..but more serious injuries are popping up
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    That's what scare me...teams that win or go to SB are heathy at the right time...right now..that's not us. Not even close
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    Who have we lost to IR that we would consider a major player? That's more unlucky to me.

    We have a lot of injuries and Edelman has been my sentimental favorite on this team since he has started, but we haven't lost anyone on the OL for the season there's a chance we can get healthy there. After a few weeks with both Gregory and Chung out we're uncharacteristically healthy in the defensive backfield.

    Gronk will be back and yeah, we haven't had Gronk and Hernandez on the field at the same time much this year and yet our offense is tearing it up.

    I dunno, I think we've got a reasonable amount of injuries and I actually feel lucky that we've only lost Edelman to IR that I can recall.
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    Perfect reason why there should never be an 18 week season as the NFL proposed,some teams won't even have enough players on the roster healthy by the 18th week to fill a 53 man roster.
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    if we don't get a 1st round bye...gronk may and can miss first game which would suck..that's huge
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    One of the reasons the Pats win the division almost every year and go to the playoffs is because they have a deep roster, all teams have injuries this time of year, you hope it isnt to Brady or another key player.
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    The guys down in the depth chart seem to be playing very well. Look at the strip sack by Scott on Sunday.

    I'd say that the timing is GREAT to be getting Jones, Hightower, Cunningham, Bolden, Hernandez and Gronk back from injury instead of going to injury. I expect the same for Mankins. They had a rest. They'll be ready for the stretch run. What could be better than that? Edleman is a blow but they have Stallworth ready to step in and Wes to return the punts.
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    That's right and we aren't that bad with some key players at least scheduled to return. It wasn't just 2003, we had lots of injuries in our top years, but the 2003 team was like a mash unit. 42 different starters (45 in 2005, and we still made the playoffs).
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    Be nice if they could find someone else (Slater anyone?) to not risk Wes on all those odd-extra hits. with the wr depletion that would be preferred i would think.....But, football players play football so in all likelihood he will be back there - Mr Reliable.
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    It begs the theoretical question - should the Pats rest some players over the last 4 games. If so who and in which games?
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    It seems to me like we're getting healthier, with the exception of the loss of Edelman to IR:

    - Chandler Jones will be back and hopefully fully recovered from his ankle injury
    - Aaron Hernandez is slowly working himself back into form after missing most of the season with an ankle injury
    - Each week brings us closer to the return of Rob Gronkowski, which is the biggest return of all
    - Sebastian Vollmer came back last week against Miami
    - Brandon Bolden may be activated, adding depth to the running attack

    With Jones back the defense is essentially healthy, and we should get a rested Jermaine Cunningham back in a couple of weeks. The defense is healthier than it was earlier in the season.

    We don't know about Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly, who are important for a stretch run. Otherwise, once Gronk returns the offense will essentially be at full strength except for the loss of Edelman.

    I think the team is slowly inching towards getting healthier.
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    I think we are in good shape. We have already locked up the playoff spot and can take our sweet time in bringing people back. I would rather they be healthiest at the first playoff game, not now.
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    Yep, we should definitely rest guys with four games to go and a bye (maybe even the #1 seed) in play.
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    Most teams are banged up right now. This is where depth and substance comes to play, this team has to show it's ability to play through injuries, which I think they do pretty well. Just wait until Gronk gets back, that TE duo will be back right in time.

    This is why I said Gronk being hurt now is a blessing in disguise. He'll be fully ready when the playoffs come around and our offense will be able to go to anyone's field and beat them.
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    Gronk has a broken arm correct? 4-6 week injury but not something that should happen over and over again like a hammy or an ankle sprain would. Right? The real key is the O LINE...the playoffs bring superior D lines so the O line HAS to get healthy. Edelman's loss is big as he provided a healthy dose of positive field position on PRs and was a jack of all trades on offense.

    Still if the O Line is healthy and Lloyd, AH, Gronk, Welker, Ridley, Vereen and Bolden are all healthy then the O should be in excellent shape. I think Vereen can take some of the same snaps Edelman did as he is quick and elusive with home run potential.

    My 2 cents
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    It has always seemed after a "long season" in which we went deep into the playoffs, the subsequent season has seen an abnormally high amount of injuries....

    Perhaps my view is anecdotal, would be interesting to see a longitudinal study of teams and injuries after superbowl or championship games....
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    Out of all the injuries, the ones on the O-line concern me the most. Especially since we’re about to face the 2 toughest front-7s in the next two weeks. We need to make sure Brady is kept upright or else it will be game over for them.

    As for the rest of the injuries, I too, think they happened at the right times. Gronk will be back for the playoffs in a better shape than he was at before he got injured (he would have hopefully healed his hip and back by then). Bolden is eligible to play, Cunningham will have served his suspension, and Jones is good to go. The only wildcard is the O-line.
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    Well there is a quarter of the season to go, IF Mankins, Connolly, Vollmer are healthy in 4 weeks we will be fine. The D is pretty healthy given the time of year.

    The NFL is a war of attrition, the bye week would be very helpful.
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    The 3 question marks on the OL are Mankins, Vollmer and Connolly:

    - Vollmer was back against Miami, which hopefully was a tuneup for huge matchups against Houston and San Francisco - the 2 games prior to the playoffs for which we need him the most.
    - Connolly went out against Miami. We don't know his status yet. We'll find out more today as to whether he practices.
    - Mankins has been the most severely injured of the 3. We don't know how close he was to being ready. The Pats haven't put him on IR, which is something. It's possible that they've been playing things cautiously with him and letting him get healthy for the stretch run. The team doesn't let anything out. Again, we'll know more if he practices and as the week progresses.

    BB is pretty masterful about pacing his roster, and figuring out what is enough firepower to squeak by. I think BB had a sense he could win the past few games with what he had. It wouldn't surprise me to see Mankins and Connolly play the next 2 weeks and then get rested the last 2 weeks of the season. But I agree with you, it's going to be hard to go all the way without those guys playing. Gronk and Jones will be back, Edelman's gone, so it really comes down to the health of the OL, barring other injuries over the last quarter of the season (and there will be some, obviously).
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    The OL injuries are the ones that concern me. They appear to be the nagging ones that aren't going to go away. Gronk will get healthy. Chandler Jones will get healthy. Vollmer sounds like he's touch and go for the rest of the year. Cutting Petrus this early in the week encourages me a little that Mankins and Connolly aren't seriously injured. Or, maybe that Petrus just isn't any good.
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    We're in better shape than you realize IMO. Look at teams like Houston who have lost Cushing to IR and they're depleted at CB, Joseph has a hamstring issue and those are no guarantee to even go away by later in the season. Bmore is in shambles and Webb is definitely gone for the year, Suggs may or may not join him.

    We should be thankful right now that the only player lost to IR has been Edelman. It's a blow but not a devastating one. As long as we avoid more IR's we'll be fine. Mankins has 5 or 6 weeks to get better and seeing how he's still on the active roster I doubt it's a season ending thing. Same with Vollmer's back issues, thanks to our OL depth and Scar we can afford to take our time with those 2. Gronk will easily be back in time for the playoffs. And Hernandez is getting better, shiftier by the week. By playoff time at the latest he should be back to full speed barring another injury.

    Right now it seems to me the injuries/returns are setting up nicely for us. Though with Mankins' it's impossible to know.
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    I'll add my vote to this theme. Overall, I agree, every team has injuries and there's no use cryin' about them but of all the concerns, the O-Line is my biggest. Connelly didn't look good on the bench last week after he came out. He seemed visibly in pain, like he tried to give this thing a go and it just wasn't working out. Mankins has been out a while now so clearly his was more than a "tweak." As others have noted, neither one is on IR so hope remains constant.

    At the end of the day it's about keeping #12 upright and healthy...in Dante We Trust!

    Side note about Dante...when I was a freshman in college I met him at a trade show at the "old" Hynes Auditorium (before the the remodel). This was the fall of 1984. At that time, he was still a member of Ron Meyer's staff - the coach who hired him originally in 1982. I know he left for a couple of years but that is a lot of history with this team.
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    Marcus Zusevics was recently added to the active roster which cost us Greg Salas, and tangentially Matt Kopa, and they just cut Petrus.

    He was fairly highly regarded pre-injury, so he may be a guy we can hope to see some good things from soon in a position of need.
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    Of the AFC teams, Denver seems to be in the best shape injury-wise. Baltimore, Houston and Pittsburgh are all pretty beat up. In the NFC, Atlanta seems to be in good shape, followed by the 49ers and Giants. Green Bay has been banged up a lot, and the Bears are falling apart injury-wise.
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