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Patriots sign 7th round choice OT Thomas Welch

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  1. Calciumee

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    Pats still have room to sign six more of their nine remaining picks.
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    Didnt Belichick have this guy rated higher than he did the 4th round prospects in the 07 draft?
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    This is the 1st thread regarding Welch ...

    The next will be when he's cut.
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    Nice project, former tight end with only two years at line. He's huge and likely nimble if he was a TE.
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    Getting a JAG for a 7th round pick is good value, considering most 7th rounders don't even make rosters.
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    Matt Cassel, Julain Edelman and Tully Banta-Cain all waive hello! :rolleyes:
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    He moved to Tackle during his freshman year and spent the next 3 playing OT. 2 of which he was the starter.
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    Antoine Womack, Oscar Lua, Mike Elgin, Owen Pochman, TJ Turner, Casey Tisdale, Spencer Nead, Andy Stokes all wave "HI" to you as players who the Pats drafted in the 7th round who didn't make it.

    As a league average, it's only like 10% of the 7th round picks actually make rosters and accomplish something.
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    And how many of that 90% make it onto practice squads? Because unless he wows the team to the point that he is never going to last after getting cut he is going to wind up there for development by Coach Dante for the year with a shot at making the team next year as a backup. He doesn't need to make the team to have accomplished anything this year, just getting retained on the practice squad is what he needs as an accomplishment.
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    Thanks, lazy reading on my part. That's what the bio I read said, but my brain took two year starter and made it two year tackle.
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    Did we miss David Givens? Nothing wrong with drafting well in the low rounds, but it's still almost a FA, of which we've hit on a few also.

    Plus we usually end up with 4-5 7th rounders anyway (this is an exaggeration).

    I wouldn't mind a 6'7" Tom Ashworth as a backup. Guy had a seven year career, more than half as a starter.
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    Making it to the practice squad doesn't matter. As a league average, 90% of the players taken in the 7th round end up not having an NFL career. Period.

    Yes, the Pats have been ABOVE AVERAGE with their 7th round picks. But they have still had more misses than hits with them. Of the 17 draft picks used in the 7th round from 2000 through 2009, they had 7 clear misses. They had 4 players who had minor contributions (Pochman and Morton for other teams, Andrews and Kelley for the Pats), 5 hits in Cassel, Pass, Edelman, Givens, and TBC, and 1 who is undetermined (Richard).
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    Wasn't he a fifth rounder?
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    Oops.. got him and Darryl Richard mixed up.. Thanks for the correction.
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    So 30% chance the pats can get a solid player out of the7ths.

    I guess the glass is half empty for you.
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    If that's true, then the Pats' record is pretty incredible -- 30% success (and those 5 are good players, not borderline by any means). Now if only they were as good in rounds 2 and 3. :)

    (By the way, in your earlier post there were 8 clear misses.)
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    I picked up Lindy's NFL 2010 preview magazine last night. They said that Welch could be a quality starter in a year.
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    By my math 4 +5 +1 = 10. 10 of 17 is more hits than misses for 7th rounders.

    The real question is UDFAs. The Pats have Hoyer, Law firm, McGowan, Woods, Alexander, Wright not counting others on the fringes. Those are the ones I remember and I'm sure there were others, in the past decade like Izzo.
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    It doesn't matter? They are still part of the team and are an injury away from getting outright on the team- it sure as hell matters.

    By your claim about them alone that is a 53% success rate with 7th rounders. The fact that those nine players contributed in the league breaks your argument about the 10% success rate. Contributing is success for them no matter how you crap coat it.
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    Law Firm, Woods, and Alexander aren't on the fringes?
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    I wouldn't count making other teams or getting 1/2 career tackle as successful for us. I would count Willie Andrews as he was a good special teamer derailed by legal problems, if I recall.

    We still have an extraordinary record in 7, probably in 6 (anybody and Brady) and a damn tough time in 2 and 3 for some reason.
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    No, they're on the team. By the standards we're using for sevens, players on the team as Sts, backups or occasional starters between 2-6 years are solid free agents.
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